Why was the capital never moved?

[Mad_Mullah]

Why was the capital never moved to the North?

 

You have a civil war raging in the south, the north is relatively safe. Why not have the capital there, even if it's for a limited time.

 

Is due to lack of infrastructure? The north up till now doesn't have anything compared to a DESTROYED Mogadishu let alone something that would be able to host foreign diplomats, embassies, airports, cultural institutions etc.

 

Or is there some other reason?

[ANWAR]

Why would someone move the capital to the desert badlands of the north?? Are you not entertained by bananas and mangoes of the south??

[Mad_Mullah]

The land might be bad but the people are civilized. So you agree that it's to do with infrastructure/city or the lack of it.

[Wadani]

Mad_Mullah;976299 wrote:

The land might be bad but

the people are civilized

. So you agree that it's to do with infrastructure/city or the lack of it.

Biggest myth ever. Northern Somalis are more tribal and thus more violent than their southern counterparts. And besides, northerners (I'm including H.G. in this category too, as they are culturally more akin to northerners) are very much involved in the endemic violence raging in the south.

[YoniZ]

Mad_Mullah;976294 wrote:

Why was the capital never moved to the North?

 

You have a civil war raging in the south, the north is relatively safe. Why not have the capital there, even if it's for a limited time.

 

Is due to lack of infrastructure? The north up till now doesn't have anything compared to a DESTROYED Mogadishu let alone something that would be able to host foreign diplomats, embassies, airports, cultural institutions etc.

 

Or is there some other reason?

It is very good question.

 

The reason wasn't lack of infrastructure but the shortsightedness of the ignorant and the stubborn Somali politicians in that era, plus the negligence of the IC as the country had neither capable friends nor reliable allies.

 

There was a good chance that, OAQ's government might have succeeded if allowed to temporarily move to Hargeisa, and probably this poor nation would have not suffered decades of continuous bleeding.

 

Have we learned anything from that catastrophe - I think not.

 

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance."

Anthony J. D'Angelo

[Che -Guevara]

Wadani;976302 wrote:

Biggest myth ever. Northern Somalis are more tribal and thus more violent than their southern counterparts. And besides, northerners (I'm including H.G. in this category too, as they are culturally more akin to northerners) are very much involved in the endemic violence raging in the south.

An honest man, what's worse they are full of themselves.

[Mad_Mullah]

So because they're more tribal they're more violent? That's nonsense. Bring facts saxib. Fact is Somaliland tribe as soon as they toppled the government worked together - created an army/police/government etc. the HAG started fighting one another like animals - destroying mosques/government/cultural buildings - hospitals - houses anything and everything like savages.

 

Garowe got their shit together to. Saying the North is worse is like saying there's more freedom in North Korea than South Korea.

[Che -Guevara]

Mad_Mullah;976305 wrote:

the HAG started fighting one another like animals - destroying mosques/government/cultural buildings - hospitals - houses anything and everything like savages.

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Waa kow

[Wadani]

Mad_Mullah;976305 wrote:

So because they're more tribal they're more violent? That's nonsense. Bring facts saxib. Fact is Somaliland tribe as soon as they toppled the government worked together - created an army/police/government etc. the HAG started fighting one another like animals - destroying mosques/government/cultural buildings - hospitals - houses anything and everything like savages.

 

Garowe got their shit together to. Saying the North is worse is like saying there's more freedom in North Korea than South Korea.

When you say southerner to me it means Biyom@al, Raxanw@yn, Reer Xamar (yacni cad cadka), Ba@ntu, Barawa@ni, Ba@juuni iyo kuwo kale oo aan hadda illowsanahay. Saaxiib, the violence in the south is nothing more than rival northern clans (whether in the geographic or cultural sense) vying for power and in the process colonising the true southerners who I have mentioned above. There is no difference between a Mrxn guy from Garbahaaray, a H.G. guy from Cadaado and a H.Y. guy from Burco in terms of their qabiili mentality and proneness to violence. So, it's not a north vs south thing, it's a geeljire/qabiili vs beeralay/xoogsade divide that explains this phenomenon.

 

Besides Xamar is the capital, so ofcourse it has been the epicentre of violence for the past two decades. Was Cabdullaahi Yuusuf a southerner when he brought his militia and the Ethiopians into Xamar in 2006? Are Axmed Godane and the upper echelon of Al-shabaab southerners? Are all those vying for power in Jubbaland HAG? Come on bro.

[Alpha Blondy]

Wadani;976302 wrote:

Biggest myth ever. Northern Somalis are more tribal and thus more violent than their southern counterparts. And besides, northerners (I'm including H.G. in this category too, as they are culturally more akin to northerners) are very much involved in the endemic violence raging in the south.

do you honestly think writing things like this...impresses anyone?

[Tallaabo]

Mad_Mullah;976305 wrote:

So because they're more tribal they're more violent? That's nonsense. Bring facts saxib. Fact is Somaliland tribe as soon as they toppled the government worked together - created an army/police/government etc. the HAG started fighting one another like animals - destroying mosques/government/cultural buildings - hospitals - houses anything and everything like savages.

 

Garowe got their shit together to. Saying the North is worse is like saying there's more freedom in North Korea than South Korea.

I think you are not aware of the maryo alool war in Somaliland in the mid 1990's when the Habros went berserk. Wadani has a point because indeed Northern tribalism scares the life out of me. The Southerners might be passionate anarchists but the Northerners from Gaalkacayo upwards are Pharaohnic in their following of the clan. Hargeisa is basically a collection of clan ghettoes with Berlin walls between them. And Burco has a wall which can rival that of the West Bank.

[Alpha Blondy]

Tallaabo;976373 wrote:

Hargeisa is basically a collection of clan ghettoes with Berlin walls between them. And Burco has a wall which can rival that of the West Bank.

of course, Wadani and his kin lost the war and they were displaced to Salaxley and Toon. i expect he knows this. you, on the other hand, are a little habar qaloocian weasel and your fikir doesn't come as a surprise. more than a 1.5million people (27% of their population) died as a result of Xamarawi qabyaalad. the habar-habar war of the mid 1990s was less than 5,000 (mostly sand-dwellers and Habar Qaloocians) accordingly to the Academy for Peace and Development. surely, you're not comparing the two, maha?

 

Abti,

 

Xamarawi qabyaalad is disgusting. it's corrosive. look at their trauma-induced people who are like the walking zombies from Michael Jackson's Thriller. they're virtually dead inside because of witnessing the massacres and intra-tribal genocidal acts of killings, torture and rape as a weapon of war.

[Haatu]

^^Fascniating stuff you got there Tallaabo. It seems Alpha has been hiding details and sugarcoating all this time

[Cambuulo iyo bun]

Haatu;976383 wrote:

^^Fascniating stuff you got there Tallaabo. It seems Alpha has been hiding details and sugarcoating all this time

He's a little munafaaq Al. .....

[Alpha Blondy]

Haatu;976383 wrote:

^^Fascniating stuff you got there Tallaabo. It seems Alpha has been hiding details and sugarcoating all this time

abti,

 

UBBO are killing at an all time high, ma garatay?

 

i was watching ESTV's coverage just the other day. UBBO were killing all baby boys between the age of 2 years and 5 months foetuses. the latter i can't confirm how they knew. apparently, this merciless pharoahic act of killing was to prevent Abdi Iley's heir.