Carafaat Posted September 1, 2013 Dowlada Puntland ayaa tageerey heshiiskii dhowaan ku gaareen magaalada Addis Ababa maamulka Jubbaland iyo Dowlada Federaalka. Go’aankaan ayaa yimid kadib markii maanta 1 Sept, 2013 kulan saacado badan socdey ku wada qaateen magaalada Nairobi wafdi ay kala hogaaminayaan Madaxweynaha maamulka Jubaland iyo Madaxweynaha dowlada Puntland. Kulankaan oo arrimo badan lagu falan qeeyey ayaa waxaa kasoo baxey in dowlada Puntland tageerto heshiiskii Addis Ababa ku kala sixiixdeen maamulka Jubaland iyo dowlada Federaalka. Warsaxfadeedkaan ayaa waxaa ku xusan in dowlada Puntland tageereyso go’aan walba oo xal loogu gaarayo arrimaha murugsan ee Somalia. WAR SAXAAFADEED Dowladda Puntland waxay soo dhoweynaysaa Heshiiskii ay magaalada Addis Ababa ku wada saxiixeen Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya (DFS) iyo Maamulka Jubaland, heshiis kaasoo qeexaya nidaamka maamulka iyo dowladnimada oo waafaqsan Dastuurkii Federaalka Soomaaliya oo lagu wada heshiiyay. Puntland waxay ammaan usoo jeedinaysaa labada Wafdi ee Soomaaliyeed oo ka qeybqaatay wada-hadalo miro dhal ah, iyagoo ku midaysan helitaanka Dowlad Soomaaliyeed oo ku dhisan nidaamka Federaalka, midnimada iyo dimuqraadiyadda. Maanta waxaa magaalada Nairobi kulan ku yeeshay wafdiga Dowladda Puntland uu hogaaminayey Madaxweyne Cabdiraxman Shiikh Maxamad Farole iyo wafdiga Jubaland oo uu hogaaminayey Madaxweyne Axmed Maxamad Islam (Axmed Madobe), iyadoo shirkaasi looga hadlay xoojinta xiriirka iyo wadashaqaynta u dhaxeeya Puntland iyo Jubaland iyo sidii loo taageeri lahaa heshiiska cusub oo maamul la wada aqoonsanyahay u dhisaya gobollada Jubbada Hoose, Jubbada Dhexe iyo Gedo, ee koonfurta Soomaaliya. Puntland waxay aqoonsantahay ayna ammaanaysaa doorkii muhiimka ahaa ay ciyaartay Dowladda Ethiopia oo ah Gudoonka Urur-goboleedka IGAD iyo Beesha Caalamka, oo ay ka mid yihiin Midowga Yurub iyo Qaramada Midoobay, oo fududeeyey wadahadaladii ka socday muddo todobaad ah magaalada Addis Ababa. Puntland waxay diyaar u tahay inay ka caawiso maamulka Jubaland dhisida hey’daha dowliga ah waxayna Puntland mowqifkeedu yahay inay taageerto wadahadalo siyaasadeed, dib u heshiisiin Qaran iyo cadaalad, iyo dowlad-wanaag si loo hormariyo nabadeynta dalka Soomaaliya. — DHAMMAAD — Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted September 1, 2013 So Faroole decided to support the agreement Jubba agreement after all. this comes 3 days late, but nonetheless a welcome move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted September 1, 2013 Do you have evidence that he did not agreed the agreement 3 days ago, any evidence such as audio or video would be OK that Faroole said he opposed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mafia Posted September 1, 2013 Axmad Madoobe closed the deal with the Puntland admin in Nairobi. Faroole didn't have the entire story when he initially disapproved of the agreement. Great news! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted September 1, 2013 Carafaat;975833 wrote: So Faroole decided to support the agreement Jubba agreement after all. this comes 3 days late, but nonetheless a welcome move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted September 1, 2013 They say the greatest form of flattery is imitation. If puntland agrees with the juba/sfg deal and puntland is also a federal region of Somalia then they should be happy to sign the same deal they think is soo wonderful with their government. If not then all this is more baxbax from baxbaxland. Surrender the port within 6 months, call yourself punt and nationalise your """forces""" hahand part take in a peace conference in mugdisho and call yourself governer general etc. If not keep quiet. It's all bu))sh*t. This is called face saving exercise by failures who yet again did not get what they wanted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted September 1, 2013 Somalia;975840 wrote: Hotel room in Kenya, hotel room in Ethiopia, hotel room in Kismayo. Modern day somali gyp£Ies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted September 1, 2013 Many are looking at this from the wrong angle. There's a far bigger actor than Ahmed Madobe in convincing Faroole to endorse the agreement, much against his natural inclinations. That actor is 'the Ethiopian Government'. If you look at the official signed agreement between Ahmed Madobe and the SFG representative, the last article of the agreement stands out: (23) The Government of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia as chair of IGAD shall be the guarantor of this agreement. The Ethiopian Foreign Minister even signs the agreement with the title of 'Guarantor'. http://dhanaan.com/Dhanaan%20documents/FGS%20and%20Juba%20Agreement.pdf Now what is a 'guarantor'? A guarantor is defined as: a person or entity that agrees to be responsible for another's debt or performance under a contract, if the other fails to pay or perform. Now, in the Puntland press statement posted by Carafaat above, the same homage is paid to the Ethiopian government for being the indispensible overseer of the whole process: 'Puntland waxay aqoonsantahay ayna ammaanaysaa doorkii muhiimka ahaa ay ciyaartay Dowladda Ethiopia oo ah Gudoonka Urur-goboleedka IGAD iyo Beesha Caalamka'. So if SOL readers are looking for who's behind Faroole's abrupt about-face on the recent agreement, look no further than the 'Ethiopian Government'--- An Ethiopian government that was increasingly uncomfortable with Kenya's recent power play as the key regional hegemon in Southern Somalia and wanted to reclaim its past 'outsized' role in Somali affairs. That same Ethiopian government will do all it can in terms of pressure and arm-twisting to make sure Faroole and his Puntland do not stand in the way of Ethiopia reclaiming the steering wheel of Southern Somali affairs from the recent Kenyan poaching. That, gentlemen, is the bigger game at play here...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cadnaan1 Posted September 1, 2013 Sawirka Gaandi maxaa ka qaldan waxaa qoorta u saaran maradii cadeed ee wadaada amxaarada xirtaan iyo wuxuu gacanta ku haystaa wax u ek booki Bible gaalada. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted September 1, 2013 Before endorsement: Secessionists: this is a victory for Hasan Sheikh, Jubbaland has been conquered, Puntland is defeated and isolated; HAG faction: Finally, this is peace, this is what we wanted, lets all (conveniently) unite now. After endorsement: THIS IS THE ETHIOPIANS, Puntland is WEAK, sign over everything now or face the wrath of the SFG. :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted September 1, 2013 Mintid, Thanks for clarifying. There seems to be a whole game of international diplomacy that is played in the background. Now it also makes sense why Somalias government was so eager to negotiate in Addis with Ethiopia as the mediator. Clearly Somalia has leveraged the two regional powers and neighbors against each other. Nonetheless I get the feeling that these two countries always play the good cop and bad cop on Somalia, with the outcome being always favourable to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted September 2, 2013 Somalia;975853 wrote: Before endorsement: Secessionists: this is a victory for Hasan Sheikh, Jubbaland has been conquered, Puntland is defeated and isolated; HAG faction: Finally, this is peace, this is what we wanted, lets all (conveniently) unite now . After endorsement: THIS IS THE ETHIOPIANS, Puntland is WEAK, sign over everything now or face the wrath of the SFG. :D Pirates and the defeated lot: "juba will never sign anything, we have two federal regions and we will use that as leverage against the hag who needs mugdisho. We will use jubaland to take back Somalia. We are majority in jubaland. We will unite with puntland to form an alliance. Hahah Actual result: we surrender....... We don't know puntland. Long live Hassan shieck. Hahahaha.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted September 2, 2013 cadnaan1;975852 wrote: Sawirka Gaandi maxaa ka qaldan waxaa qoorta u saaran maradii cadeed ee wadaada amxaarada xirtaan iyo wuxuu gacanta ku haystaa wax u ek booki Bible gaalada. How pathetic. Ever heard of marakaan (not Mareykaan the nationality)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambuulo iyo bun Posted September 2, 2013 GAROODI;975884 wrote: Pirates and the defeated lot: "juba will never sign anything, we have two federal regions and we will use that as leverage against the hag who needs mugdisho. We will use jubaland to take back Somalia. We are majority in jubaland. We will unite with puntland to form an alliance. Hahah Actual result: we surrender....... We don't know puntland. Long live Hassan shieck. Hahahaha.... Looooooooooooool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted September 2, 2013 ^I am surprised you want to share a laugh with a kid who wishes parts or whole Somalia gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites