LANDER Posted August 27, 2013 nuune;975166 wrote: ^ It is easy to end the conflict, and it is being agreed by both parties in the conflict to come together and end the civil war, but who is against this, the West is not allowing that to happen for Syrians to sit down and resolve their difference. How many times we have heard that the Rebels were ready to sit down with the government, even inside Damascus, even the Rebels are tired of this long conflict, they thought a similar Libya will happen, but it dragged, Libya did not have an army, while Syria does have armed forced. What happen to the groups of oppositions who were planning to come to Damascus for talks, the head of the rebels who was supposed to take part in the talks was killed while trying to cross into Syria from Turkey for accepting the talks, the government was ready to share and listen to the concerns of the rebels. It is not wise to compare nations to other nations, in this case, Kosovo to Syria, or Libya to Syria, this is not Kosovo, this is a dangerous territory, the talk of Kosovo has being used by the West as an example to attack Syria, and the West Media has indeed planted Kosovo in the minds of many! It is true that a negotiated peace is always preferable but I just don't think its so 'easy' to attain it. If that was the case it would have already taken place. It gets tiresome to hear people blame the west for everything. If you look at this conflict in Syria Saudi Arabia has played a huge role just like they have in the Egyptian military coup. These are arabs fanning the flames of war among other arabs. The worst part in all of this is the Saudi regime has no consistent values aside from 1) Assuring the survival of their regime and 2)Spreading their influence where ever possible. The evidence? In the case of Syria they heavily support Sunni religious factions against what they see as an Alawite regime that is too cozy with Iran and in the case of Egypt they support a military dictatorship to the tune of 12.5 Billion dollars they recently announced (more than 10 times the yearly US military aid 1.5 B) against the Islamic brotherhood that was democraticly elected. The US at least has some debate as to whom they should support, where, when, how and why. You've got republic politicians like John McCain proclaiming 'Our values are a our principles and our principles are our values' in response to the egyptian coup which he does not favor overthrowing a democratically elected government but favored cutting off military aid to the egyptian army. They've attempted to also mediate for peace between the egyptians, what exactly has Saudi Arabia done? aside from providing the Egyptian generals with a blank cheque. Nothing is so black and white anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted August 28, 2013 Well I could care less about the Alawite dictator or the Atheist Obama engaging each other. However, I worry for the civilians who will get killed in the name of 'freedom'. May Allah have mercy on all those who have died and will die at hands of injustice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted August 28, 2013 Good points Lander, not just Saudis but Qataris as well, today the Arab League met in Cairo, and approved a military action, giving the West the go ahead, similar go ahead in Libya we have seen in the past, the West already arguing that the Arab nations justified military action and action will take place in the coming days, referring to today's Arab League, so any excuse is needed, even from the weak Arab League. Negotiations can't take place when the one's who want to sit down with the government are given millions of dollars not to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbesian_Brute Posted August 28, 2013 ^ Nuune please leave politics alone, you don't have the brains for it. waa iga talo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LANDER Posted August 29, 2013 nuune;975195 wrote: Good points Lander , not just Saudis but Qataris as well, today the Arab League met in Cairo, and approved a military action, giving the West the go ahead, similar go ahead in Libya we have seen in the past, the West already arguing that the Arab nations justified military action and action will take place in the coming days, referring to today's Arab League, so any excuse is needed, even from the weak Arab League. Negotiations can't take place when the one's who want to sit down with the government are given millions of dollars not to do so. ^ Good Point on Qatar too. I wonder sometimes if they see this all as a competitive game (KSA and Qatar). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites