The patient with the big Axe in the head and Soomaliya- Rants from Khaddafi.

[Khadafi]

I am a guy who loves metaphors. They simplify complex problems that people just love to ignore. Suppose that a screaming patient comes into the hospital. Bewildered doctors and nurses rushes to the patient and sees that he has a big axe in the head. The blood just flowes out of the patients head. The shocked doctor asks the patient "are you okay"?. The patient then calmly answers that he has some pain in the foot. The nursers and doctors then says "but hey you have BIG axe in the head" The patient then says *"oh well that not a problem just give me some pain-killers for my foot ache". He then grabs some pills and just walks away.

 

 

It's has gone 11 years now since a federal structured government was restored in the peace-talks of Nayroobi. We all remember the actors of that game. Actors that today are out dated in Somalias politcal theater. The warlords whome for more then two years assembled literally in abandoned pig-farm house elected the late somali president and strongman Cabdullaahi Yuusuf (Alle ha u naxariisto) as president. While some were skeptical (I am included in that list) others were rejoicing and thought that Soomaliya was returning to its pre 1991- "glory times".

 

The old man, Cabdullahi Yusuf (AUN) knew that his fate was doomed in Mogadishu if he did not have Ethiopian backing and so did his opponents, the warlords of Mogadishu. What would they gain from "government". As Ngonge put it so nicely, Everything is about intrests. It was not in their interest to have a strong man in Mogadishu. Then came actors from a completely different game. Islamic neo-militants forced the warlords out and begun politicized Islam that Somalis never has seen. The drums of war begun and we saw Ethiopian tanks rolling into the streets of Mogadishu, Ironically they made their head-quarters in a building where Somalis in 1977 were planning war-strategies for for he occupation of eastern Ethiopia or Addis Abeba. That had to be lowest point for any Somali nationalist. Days became into years and the Ethiopians without the cash from the War-mongers of Washington simply went away.

 

Enough said about the history whats more interesting is what the difference between government of Cabdullaahi Yuusuf and Xassan Sheekh Maxamuud. One had the life-support of Ethiopian tanks and the other Ugandan tanks. Whats more interesting is can the government survive without the Ugandan tanks?. Returning the earlier metaphor, the patient is of course Soomaliya. While everyone today is repeating the magic mantra of "federalism" no one can clearly define it. That's the big axe in the story. We all heard and saw the story of kismaayu. Where Xassan Sheekh defined federalism in his way and others in another way. The issue was finally settled not by the legitimate government of Soomaliya. It was defined and solved in some murky room of an IGAAD-meeting.

Whats clear and without doubt is that those advocating for magical mantra of Federalism are actually creating a murky no one knowes what loose based balcanised clan-states.

 

Let's be honest and start discussing that instead of ignoring the big AXE in the patients head.

[Hobbesian_Brute]

Let's be honest, if your block your for federalism, if your block your against it, all the sophistry can't get past that simple fact.

[Cambuulo iyo bun]

Hobbesian_Brute;974844 wrote:

Let's be honest, if your block your for federalism, if your block your against it, all the sophistry can't get past that simple fact.

war its all bullshyt, when -blocks get the presidency. -block will be pro federalism. sheekada fahma

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Khadaafi, for someone who grew up meeshii aan ogaa oo asagoo aad u yar tagay, siyaasadda qabyaaladeysan Soomaaliya aad iyo aad ula socotaa. Abtiyaashaa aan aqaanay siyaasadda lama socon jirin, ee aabahaa iyo hooyadaa ka keentay marka. I hope booska aabo ka baxay, Eebbe ha u raxmadee, inaa buuxisid.

[Haatu]

Federalism won't get rid of Somalia's main problem: lack of reconciliation and trust between 2 clans that dominate the country's politics. If these two agree on peace, the rest of the issues will disappear. If they don't agree on peace, everyone is better off going their separate way. It's about time Somalis told each other the truth and this is it in its purest form.

[Khadafi]

Maskiin; Yaa og daris mar kale in aan noqono aaba dhicikarto , siyaasadna qabyaaladeysan tabar yaa u haayo yaakhay!

 

Haatu well said, we Somalis need to be honest to each other, I would love to hear from sols political pundits about their own definition of the federalism

mantra and the life support machinery of the ugandan tanks. How will federal states be built in the south where many regions are of diverse mixed clans? Would that not create more land-grabbing and conflict?

[YoniZ]

They day when two Somalis from different clan affiliation describe a political event they both witnessed 70% similar, is the time when Somalis can agree on a suitable government formation.

 

When a nation cannot agree to call duck a duck, then you have a massive problem.

 

The biggest mistake SFG has committed so far is ignoring the gulf between these political difference and the urgency needed to close that gulf.

[Tallaabo]

Haatu;974871 wrote:

Federalism won't get rid of Somalia's main problem: lack of reconciliation and trust between 2 clans that dominate the country's politics. If these two agree on peace, the rest of the issues will disappear. If they don't agree on peace,

everyone is better off going their separate way. It's about time Somalis told each other the truth and this is it in its purest form

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I have been in favour of this for a long time now. Puntland should declare independence from Somalia now. Bay, Bakool, Jubbaland, and Lower Shabelle should unite to form the second independent country, and the remaining central states should follow suit and become another sovereign nation with Mogadishu as their capital.

[Carafaat]

Federalism is supposes to safeguard some kind of independence, authonomy and souvereignity from one another. But Somalis use federalism(read clan) to intervere in diffrent and eachothers regions. Garowe intervering in Kismayo, Mudug in Merka, Baidoa in Baardhere, Jowhar folks in Jubba.

 

Even Farooles wants a piece of Kismayo. So who wants Federalism?

[Khadafi]

Carafaat;974936 wrote:

Federalism is supposes to safeguard some kind of independence, authonomy and souvereignity from one another. But Somalis use federalism(read clan) to intervere in diffrent and eachothers regions. Garowe intervering in Kismayo, Mudug in Merka, Baidoa in Baardhere, Jowhar folks in Jubba.

 

Even Farooles wants a piece of Kismayo. So who wants Federalism?

Thats the question of the day ya Carafaat, what does federalism exactly mean and is it applicable in it's somali definition [clan-states}

 

Talaabo: I dont know but that north-eastern entity has de-defacto independence, They have their own foreign policy and their own rules. So what would they gain practically by declaring independence? Zero, same thing with enclave in Hargeysa. Waving a flag and creating a local currency has shown ues previously that it does not change a thing.

 

Kismaayu was just the beginning, We are going to see worse land-grabbing these months to come, and to spike the wheel with more fuel: When the cash from west dries up just as it did to the late Melez what will happen of the SFG when the ugandan tanks roll home to Kampala.

 

 

Saaxibyaal, we need true reconciliation based upon mutual interest and common values rather then the magical mantra frenzy called Federalism. We can lock us in ourselves in a room and repeat that mantra 100 times but a quick exit from the room will not change the gloomy reality.

[Carafaat]

When you look at the whole Federalism debate and distract what most want. Then I think Somalis definetly want inclusiveness, not a clan ruled Somalia or capital, they want decentralization, they want governance in the close to the people and not be to dependent on central concensus or national deadlocks.

[Hobbesian_Brute]

I agree, but you also need safeguards. i think federalism/devolution done properly will be ok.