Iraqi men getting killed for answering wrong on how many rakca's fajr contains of

[Cambuulo iyo bun]

Che -Guevara;974837 wrote:

Faith or no faith, I think we need to accept, there are elements within the Muslim world that simply has to be confronted and removed for good. It is complex issue with no simple answers but admitting the problem would be the first step.

+1.

 

Yoniz i wasnt referring to you but to khadafi

[Jacpher]

Che -Guevara;974837 wrote:

Faith or no faith, I think we need to accept, there are elements within the

Muslim

world that simply has to be confronted and removed for good. It is complex issue with no simple answers but admitting the problem would be the first step.

Replace the bolded word with any of the following; Christian, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, American, European, African, Somali, Arab, etc, any label would fit there. Nothing specific to a certain religion or a group of people.

[Hobbesian_Brute]

.. on what theological basis are you going to confront the terrorists, when its very clear they have the sources on their side.

 

are you going to edit the quran, hadeeth and seera ?

[Che -Guevara]

Jacpher;974839 wrote:

Replace the bolded word with any of the following; Christian, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, American, European, African, Somali, Arab, etc, any label would fit there. Nothing specific to a certain religion or a group of people.

But it is the Muslim that is going through crises.Others have gone through their crises and dealt with it. It is time we do as well.

[Jacpher]

Hobbesian_Brute: You oughta be banned for deliberately insulting Islam. This is a private forum and you try a bit harder to offend the religion of the forum owners who give you a platform to discussion and exchange ideas without insluting Islam.

 

ADMIN: Please ban this script.

[Jacpher]

Che -Guevara;974845 wrote:

But it is the Muslim that is going through crises.Others have gone through their crises. It is time we do as well.

Ironically enough Bill Oreilly and that Big Fat 1diot on the radio agrees with you; that the world has a Muslim problem.

[RoccaLittorio]

The takfeeris among the salafis are a minority

[Hobbesian_Brute]

Jacpher;974846 wrote:

Hobbesian_Brute:

You oughta be banned for deliberately insulting Islam. This is a private forum and you try a bit harder to offend the religion of the forum owners who give you a platform to discussion and exchange ideas without insluting Islam.

 

ADMIN: Please ban this script.

show me where i insulted islam ?? stop trolling waryaa.

[Che -Guevara]

Jacpher;974849 wrote:

Ironically enough Bill Oreilly and that Big Fat 1diot on the radio agrees with you; that the world has a Muslim problem.

Please listen. I said the Muslim world has a problem! If you don't believe we do, then so say so.

[Cambuulo iyo bun]

Jacpher;974846 wrote:

Hobbesian_Brute:

You oughta be banned for deliberately insulting Islam. This is a private forum and you try a bit harder to offend the religion of the forum owners who give you a platform to discussion and exchange ideas without insluting Islam.

 

ADMIN: Please ban this script.

so what? afkiisa kuma taal?

[wyre]

Khadafi;974741 wrote:

This is horrible and outrageous. These monsters has no understanding of the correct islamic concept of the

holiness of life i

n Islam. God forbid us to commit suicide because life in it's self is holy and it is he only who has given us life and he only can take it. If life is so sacred what about murder? The Koran speaks about the sacredness of life. God tells us that a life taken unjustly is as if you have killed all of humanity. By the way if these beasts say that they belive in Islam where has the correct understanding of the after life gone?. All of gods creatures will be judged in the after life so why not leave it to Allah?

 

Hobbessian

your aggressive atheism is a choice you made, We all make choices in life. A wise sufi scholar said once to a rabid mulxid/atheist: If your correct in your atheism (meaning theire is no god) then their is no harm for me after death. But if your wrong, Then you are in in great danger.

 

 

Wahabism/Salafism has to be the greatest dangers facing Sunni-Islam. With it's takfirism and hostile attitude towards islamic spiritualism (sufism) It is going to make a meltdown in the Islamic world. Before the spread of wahabism Islam was purely a religion that engaged society with it's sprituality. It took care about the orphans and spread deep seated moral values of love and friendship.

 

In the desert plains of 1900-century Soomaliya the wadaad (caalim) was the the only one who had free passage between different feuding hostile clans. The wadaad had codex not to involve himself in the never ending clan warfare

We had xer-communities were the orphans and the poor made settlements in southern fertile somaliya. They were given food and security by the locals. In return they would recite the quran for the locals and pray for them. If someone was sick it was the

wadaad

who would be the medicine man. The only -non clan institution in Soomaliya was in those religous settlements in Baardheere. Please correct me if I am wrong on this point.

 

 

But times do change. From the humble

wadaad

we have gone to a a

wadaad

on a tiikniko and ak-47. Killing and fighting all in the name of God and ofcourse for political power. Amiir Godane thinks he

only

is some kind of God's messenger that has a divine right to rule all of Somalis. And if someone disobeys or dis-agrees with his sect then ofcourse God has permitted him to kill him.

 

Being a Wadaad has also become some kind of buisness. If you turn on random Somali TV you will see a wadaad speaking about all things from science to mathematics and political matters.

I remember during 2006-2007 in Nayroobi, a certain famous Somali Wadaad accused then somali government of being apostates and everyone working for them. At the same time he was flirting with Kenyan kikuyo government.

 

After wide spread criqiue he flip-flopped and turned on his al-shabaab wahabi students. No one noticed it and no one dared to question him. Who can do that? After all he is a

wadaad

 

 

Johnny B.

Dem här monstren är politiserade o-andliga människor som rättfärdigar sina handlingar i Guds namn. Om du studerar dem noga så kommer du se att dem är långt ifrån det

andliga inom Islam.

dvs det som bäst definerar en religion. Jag skulle nog beskriva dem islamistiska kommunister. Det låter konstigt eftersom det är motstridiga begrepp men hela deras världsbild är politiserad. Efter socialismen fall så har det blivit populärt med att blanda gamla vänster-retrorik med kryddade religösa termer.

His name please

[wyre]

Cambuulo iyo bun;974857 wrote:

so what? afkiisa kuma taal?

Afkiisa kuma taal maahan kuma yaal waaye

 

by the way afkiisa inuu dad iyo diin ku gaaro maa loogu abuuray in loo abuurayba hadduu ogyahay

[STOIC]

The biggest turn off, for me at least, about the Salafis are their constant refutations on most of their Youtube videos. I rarely listen to them.One thing I like about them though is that they don't support terrorism (Maybe Something to do with Saudi indoctrination and their protection of the royal family monopoly of power?)..I'm actually glad my Sheikh (Yasir Qadhi the one I follow closely) recently openly dissociated himself from the harsh and rigid witch-hunt of that group..I lived in Philly for many years and know how they preach at their mosques.The Salafis I personally know are very anti-Western education which I thought was very dangerous way of misleading the uneducated masses ...Still I like to have a pure heart like a sufi and an Aqeeda like Salafi...haha..is it possible?

[Cambuulo iyo bun]

wyre,Lol thanks for correcting me.

 

The point i was making is its upto him asigaa la naaraa maxaa aniga iga galey?

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Why it hasn't been removed from Youtube. Ma kuwii jaajuuska ahaa ayaa rabo inay arkaan dadka fiirsanaayo cajalkaan and who ku faraxsan xasuuqaan.

 

Acuudi bilaahi mina sheydaani rajiim. Adduunka gabo gabo ayuu ku jiraa. Nin iska shaqeysanaayo oo wade gaari iska ah, haddana dhaaranaayo, haddana aadaamaayo la toogto. Acuudi bilaahi.

 

Waxaaba soo xasuustay xasuuqii ka dhacay Soomaaliya sanadkii '91. Dad badan ayaa saan loo xasuuqay, in their cases belonging the wrong clan. Dad ayaa saan loo toogtay markii la joojiye, yaa tihiin markii la yirina qabiil kale sheegteen. Markaas kuwii xasuuqa ku dhaqmaaye ku dhaheen masaakiintii qaarkood lambarada tiriya.

 

Kow, laba, sadex, afar, shan, lix, toddobo, sideed, sagaal, toban, kow iyo toban markee maraayeen la yiri joojiya. In their twisted bloody brains, 'kow iyo toban' dadka dhaho only belonged to certain clans and it isn't because regional differences.They wanted to hear 'toban iyo koow.' Dad ayaa saas lagu xasuuqay in 1991. Eebbe ha u raxmado.