Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 3, 2013 Do Somalilanders support the consultation council, who appointed them, are we not a democracy what does the constitution say about this Debate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gar_maqaate Posted August 3, 2013 What are somalilanders? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 3, 2013 ^^ The people who hail from Somaliland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gar_maqaate Posted August 4, 2013 Is someone from gashaamo or xarshin a somalilander? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted August 4, 2013 Democracy is not about going to the voting booths once every couple of years and electing someone. That is just one part of the whole idea. The whole idea is about giving people a way to influence their affairs and destiny. So if this new council has a different opinion that needs to be heard, then the shall be given the floor to exercise their freedom of express. Somaliland needs strong and influential civil organisations whether they be consultative groups or academic think tanks, that will keep the government accountable to the people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 4, 2013 Suldaanka what we need is a strong Parliament but there is no Parliament at the moment the Guurti seems to be very pro the goverment the same with he house of the representatives. Somaliland needs to hold parliament elections as soon as possible. I believe that is the way forward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted August 4, 2013 Gar_maqaate;971988 wrote: Is someone from gashaamo or xarshin a somalilander? Naturally Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 4, 2013 Garmaqaate these people are ethnic Somalilandish people not persay Somaliland nationals the same way some one from Bookh of the Garaad clan is also an Ethnic Somalilandish person. But not persay a Somaliland national. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gar_maqaate Posted August 4, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;971998 wrote: Garmaqaate these people are ethnic Somalilandish people not persay Somaliland nationals the same way some one from Bookh of the Garaad clan is also an Ethnic Somalilandish person. But not persay a Somaliland national. Interesting, would the offsprings of Sayid Mohamed Abdille Hassan be ethnic Somalilander? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 4, 2013 Yeah sure why not Muhamad abdullah hassan was born in Somaliland he is technically a Somalilander. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gar_maqaate Posted August 4, 2013 Ok, so they are ethnic somalanders, since their ancestor was "technically" a somalilander?. I naturally find this statement nonsensical but did you know according to your "constitution" they would be illegal aliens, whereas the folks from Xarshin and Gashaamo and Djibouti qualify for citizenship. Lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 4, 2013 Nope according to the Somaliand constitution those in ethiopia what ever clan they are, cannot be Somalilanders.Where do you get that from, SL constitution says nothing about Djiboutian nationals or ethiopian nationals if they can be Somalilanders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gar_maqaate Posted August 4, 2013 I got it from your constitution! WUXUU ANSIXIYEY XEERKAN: Qodobka 1aad Qeexidda Erey-bixinta Muwaadin: Waxa loola jeedaa qofka ka ISIRRAN dadkii deganaa gayiga Somaliland 26 Juun 1960kii iyo ka hor iyo qofka sifa sharci ah lagu siiyey jinsiyadda Somaliland. That means if your tribe is from somaliland then you are naturally a citizen. Lets see how you spin this one.lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 4, 2013 Article 4: Citizenship 1. Any person who is a patrial[10] of Somaliland being a descendant of a person residing in Somaliland on 26th June 1960 or earlier shall be recognised as a citizen of Somaliland. 2. The law[11] shall determine the acquisition or lossof the citizenship of Somaliland. Article 5: Religion 1. Islam is the religion of the Somaliland state[12], and the promotion[13] of any religion in the territory of Somaliland, other than Islam, is prohibited. 2. The laws of the nation shall be grounded[14] on and shall not be contrary to Islamic Sharia. 3. The state shall promote religious tenets (religious affairs) and shall fulfil Sharia principles and discourage immoral acts and reprehensible behaviour[15]. 4. The calendar shall be the Islamic Calendar based on the hijra[16], and the Gregorian Calendar. Article 6: Language 1. The official language of the Republic of Somaliland is Somali and the second language is Arabic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 4, 2013 I dont know where you get the word isirka was or tribe was not mentioned in the SL constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites