GAROODI Posted July 14, 2013 On sol I often see names that are attributed to the dervishes: xinfinin (the mullahs horse) taleexi (the town the kacan historians believe was first used as a base) mad mullah etc. A Ramadan must read: who were the real dervishes: were where they formed: what were their objectives: who were the top commanders the kacan fairy tale has been exposed: fake history and how it was faked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=6pvIrCYdmL8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> 2 new books are set to be published and the below is the prelude to them: idaja and aw Jamac kacaan historian intellectual crimes against the somali people: exposed as frauds A 72 page thread highlighting how the kacan faked the dervish history making it a tribal movement: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted July 14, 2013 You are not allowed to post links to other forums, I have reported this due to its violation of SOL rules. :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambuulo iyo bun Posted July 14, 2013 i wonder when the book is going to be finished it will be a interesting read Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted July 14, 2013 ^^^ its history everyone should read it so go ahead and report it: hahah you don't want people to learn about how kacaan historians faked somali history. Hahah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted July 14, 2013 Cambuulo iyo bun;968644 wrote: i wonder when the book is going to be finished it will be a interesting read Cambulo its coming out later this ear Saxib. Everyone should know history not kacaan history that's why Somalia is going around reporting. He doesn't want people knowing his clan fairy tale is all fake. Cambulo did you know two of the top dervish commanders were hag and are barried in taleex??? The hag did more for the dervishes then those the kacaan argue did? Haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambuulo iyo bun Posted July 14, 2013 i see cool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted July 14, 2013 Cambuulo iyo bun;968649 wrote: I see cool!! The kacaan also manufactured some guy named Ismail Miire as the top general of the dervishes even though he was a mere stable boy and didn't see any war and lived generations after the dervishes battle. Saxib we have been duped big time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambuulo iyo bun Posted July 14, 2013 GAROODI;968647 wrote: Cambulo its coming out later this ear Saxib. Everyone should know history not kacaan history that's why Somalia is going around reporting. He doesn't want people knowing his clan fairy tale is all fake. Cambulo did you know two of the top dervish commanders were hag and are barried in taleex??? The hag did more for the dervishes then those the kacaan argue did? Haha do u got sources sxb????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted July 14, 2013 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, war ilaahi ka cabsada waa la soomanyahay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted July 14, 2013 Cambuulo iyo bun;968651 wrote: do u got sources sxb????? This is a document on taleex village and who is barried there "A little east of Soldan Nur's tomb is a shallow nulla, seen as a dark line in the photograph, and known as Hed Kaldig, the Place of Blood. This was the execution ground where those to whom the Mullah had taken a dislike were shot, with or without torture. Had such anticipated trouble and escaped, any members of their families on whom hands could be laid, including women and children, are said to have been shot in their stead, and their bodies left for the hyaenas. After the capture of Taleh pious Somalis collected the quantities of human bones found hereabouts and gave them burial. However this may be there are no human bones about now" All references and documents are incorporated and backed up in the documents Saxib go through it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted July 14, 2013 Sultan Nuur was a lander sultan who is barried there he was the cofounder of the dervishes and died defending the fort and the British had a bounty on his head and the kacaan portrayed him as English friendly: when this document proves the mad mullah begged the British http://www.smi.uib.no/sa/06/6Kapteijns.pdf And the above is backed up with a letter sent In Oct/Nov 1900 sent to Hayse-Sadler the governer at the coast begging for help: (removed all tribal names) “The Gerad Ali Farah, the Sultan of the (las canod) made so bold as to send a message to the Consul-General to the effect that his old friendly relations with us remained unchanged although, owing to the evil influence of the Mullah, his orders were no longer obeyed by his tribe. For this act the Sultan was treacherously murdered by the Mullah's command ; and the bodies of the twelve principal sheikhs in the (las canod) country were seized.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted July 14, 2013 Cambulo here is your sources and proof bro jut removed the tribal names but its a document so read it for yourself Author(s): W. A. MacFadyen Reviewed work(s):Source: The Geographical Journal, Vol. 78, No. 2 (Aug., 1931), pp. 125-128Published by: Blackwell Publishing on behalf of The Royal Geographical Society (with the Institute ofBritish Geographers)Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/1784443 . South of the main cave-well is the considerable tomb of 'Abdullah Hasan senior, well plastered inside and out; it is now said to be empty. Adjoining this on the west is a walled garden with massive gateway and guard-house; the rest ofthe wall is not more than 5 feet high and plastered. There are still odd bushes and signs of cultivation to be seen, but the comparatively deep well in the middle is dry. To the east lies a row of four tombs. The most northerly is that of one Soldan Nur of the (Lander) tribe; the next two, neither being plastered. and the first with the top left unfinished, are those of Hag notables whose names my Somalis did not know. The most southerly tomb is that of a man of the Lander tribe. The isolated tomb still farther east is that of 'AbdullahHasan's mother. All the tombs are provided with narrow but very massive wooden doors, swinging about vertical extensions from top and base of one side. A little east of Soldan Nur's tomb is a shallow nulla, seen as a dark line in the photograph, and known as Hed Kaldig, the Place of Blood. This was the execution ground where those to whom the Mullah had taken a dislike were shot, with or without torture. Had such anticipated trouble and escaped, any members of their families on whom hands could be laid, including women and children, are said to have been shot in their stead, and their bodies left for the hyaenas. After the capture of Taleh pious Somalis collected the quantities of human bones found hereabouts and gave them burial. However this may be there are no human bones about now. According to Jardine the R.A.F. bombed Taleh on 4 February 1920, and set fire to brushwood huts inside and outside Silsilat, but did little damage to the main structures, which is not surprising. The place was attacked by our tribal levies under Captain Gibb on the evening of February 9; 'Abdullah Hasan had already fled, and by the morning of the 10th the levies were in com? plete possession. A detachment of the Camel Corps remained for two or three weeks to demolish the fortifications. Dar Ilalo,Taleh, and Falat were severely damaged and made unusable, and the strong points fronting Silsilat were partly destroyed. Razing such a structure would have required much further work and explosives, so that a considerable part has been left with little damage. It will remain as a relic of that rather remarkable person its builder, the only Somali who has so far created substantial buildings in his country Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted July 14, 2013 2 hag 2 landers and the Abdulle hassans mother are buried in taleex: the dervish but the kacaan made it appear to be a tribal movement. Cambulo we have been had Saxib. Hahah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted July 14, 2013 Another myth of the kacan debunked is: the kacaan argued that Richard corfield was helping landers who were British lackeys against the dervishes even though the bulk of the top commanders of the dervish were landers: "From July to December, 1912, the Dervishes had remained concentrated in the Gerrowei district; and the Ain Valley was left deserted not only by the Mullah's forces, but also by the lawful occupants, most of whom were afraid to return to this danger zone. Amir, the Mullah's uncle and emissary in the Og (onlf) country, spent this period of quiescence in obtaining supplies of food, clothing, and ammunition from Abyssinian sources. No reply to the Commissioner's suggestion for an armistice had been received, and there was no doubt that the Mullah was temporising to see whether the formation of the Camel Constabulary was a prelude to a Government expedition, as was generally rumoured. In December, however, he established a small party of 150 Dervishes at Ainabo, with instructions to win over the las canod folk to his cause. The various sections of the tribe were offered the return of all stock captured during the past three years if they would but join him ; and a reward of 100 camels would be made to any individual rifleman or horseman deserting to the haroun. The Mullah pointed out to the Las canod folk that they had been severely punished for their allegiance to an infidel Government which afforded them no real protection ; and they were advised to throw in their lot with their own kith and kin. If they declined these terms, they must step aside entirely and afford the Dervishes a free passage through the valley. One month he allowed for deliberation and upon their decision depended their future safety or destruction" The mad mullah of SOMALILAND by Douglas jardin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites