Which team will win?

[Mooge]

[Mooge]

Ciyaarta Finalka ee Soomaaliya ayaa waxaa isugo soo haray sida uu sawir ku muuiyay Amin-arts,2-Kooxood oo ay kal hogaaminayaan Madaxweyne Xasan oo No-10 loo xiray iyo Madaxweynaha Jubbaland Axmed-Madoobe oo isagana No-10 loo xiray.

 

Madaxweyne Xasan ayaa Nambarka dicaafa u xiray Xildhibaan (Xoosh-Jabriil)oo difaaca Dastuurka u qaabilsan,halka Namaradda 9,6 iyo 2 loo xiray Raggii Dawlada Federaalka Kismaayo u dirsaday ee la soo ceyriyay,kuwaasoo kala ah No-9 waa Bare,6 waa Baasto 2 waa Baaale,Namarka 8 ayaa loo xiray Reysalwasaare Saacid oo khadka-dhexe ka cayaarayo,halka Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Jawaari No-1 loo xiray.

 

Madaxweynaha Jubbaland ayaa difaaca (No-5)u xiray nin culus waa Reysalwasaaarihii hore Gaas,halka Madaxweynaha Puntland Farole No-9 loo xiray oo dhinaca gool-dhalinta ah,No-2 oo dhinaca Baalaha iyo difaaca raacsan ayaa loo xiray Reysalwasaarihii hore Cumar C/rashiid,halka Xildhibaan Cali Khaliif uu ciyaartan ka yahay Gool-haye loona xiray No-1

 

Kooxda Madaxweyne Xasan ayaa 7-Cayaartooy ka kooban,halka kuwa Madoobe ay 5-Cayaartooy u safanayaan.

[Mooge]

Qoslaye took somalia to Clan vs Clan. it is shame it has to end up like this. what a waste of opportunity.

[Carafaat]

I think it will by a Tie between these teams and this will mean a win for Somalia.

 

They will need to compromise and agree on a strong, resourcefull and effective federal regions who will have some say in Somalias political affairs and a strong central goverment with the sole authority on some domestic and all external (foreign, trade, etc ) affairs and will act as the independent referee/authority in conflicts between and within a regions.

 

Germany has such a structure of federalism in combination with a unitary State.

[GAROODI]

^^^ this isn't Germany this is Somalia. Hag want central rule because its in their interest to dominate Somalia if they can with the capital and trade. D block are playing there last card the want federalism because they want to weaken the hag desire to dominate through central rule. They believe that through federalism they can outnumber the hag in states and dominate through federalism. In reality however I see hag winning Somalia. Mugdisho is there's and they are majority across Somalia. Bay and bakool don't really care for federalism nether do the other tribes in Somalia. If Hassan sheick can work a miracle and become no longer dependent on au forces if he can create his federal regions and can hold any viable election in 2016 as his mandate says then a referendum on the constitution will be rejected.centralised rule from the centre will win. It's a big if. The juba issue showed hag the need for central rule and it has achieved the opposite Of what d block wanted which was promote central rule. If mugdisho continues to develop hag will have further leverage as garowe doesn't cut nothing with its 200 hundred thousand people. Majority rule is what hag is after and in the end they will get it. If they can remain united: continue to build mugdisho: continue to build the somali army which is a joke and has not liberated one village on their own. And continue to argue for central rule they will win.

[Tillamook]

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Rubbish.

 

All of Hag don't want centalism and in fact the hag communities of the central regions are working on establishing a federal state of their own. So as usual you spewing hogwash and catrabaqash.

 

And for your information, federalism is not about anyone clan dominating another. It's about the decentralization of governance to the local levels where before everything was run out of Mogadishu, people now believe it is better for government to be closer to people through the regional and provincial level.

 

Federalism is the only form of governance that will ensure that all Somalis get what is rightfully theirs, including the scornful habro of the marqaan enclave in the north of the country who have been going nuts over secession.

[GAROODI]

^^^ who is going nuts? We to busy developing and taking land from pirates like you. With or without recognition Saxib the name of the game is the same: SOMALILAND is gone..... As for your argument of federalism being the only solution hahahah. Pirates starting to believe their own lies. The talk of federalism first started in carta as a way of appeasing SOMALILAND. When like today they refused to have anything to do with Somalia. The pirates created baxbax land in 1998. Seeing how much SOMALILAND was beig offered. Baxbax land has never been a state it has alway been a means to an end to get whatever they could get from the remains of the failed state. The kismayo issue highlights my argument that when you try to forcibly take hag land with the assistance of Kenya and support of pirates their I'd Ethier a desire for domination or a fight for survival which is one and the same in somali standards.

 

Hag have no desire for galmudug or federalism their beating heart is mugdisho and hag is anti federalism primarily because it doesn't make sense. They want central rule because as they see it we are all Somalis, same language, culture, plus land size and population size doesn't make sense. Furthermore hag is the majority in Somalia and that's why the reject it. And in time your pirate causins will be surprised to see the kikuyu will be joined by other amisom forces and eventually lose that region to the government. In time 2016 and beyond federalism will be rejected.

 

Genuine federalism would involve regions of mixed clans joining each other like the 6 regions of south Somalia. But tribal federalism like today will never be accepted. Typical d block always shooting themselves in the foot. You are your own worst enemies

[Tillamook]

I can't make heads or tales out of this alphabet soup you just spewed. None of anything you wrote is based on reality. As usual, you huffing and puffing nonsense nobody understands. So try to do it all over again. Maybe we will be pick a nugget of sense we could reply to...

[Somalia]

GAROODI;967962 wrote:

^^^ who is going nuts? We to busy developing and taking land from pirates like you. With or without recognition Saxib the name of the game is the same:

SOMALILAND

is gone..... As for your argument of federalism being the only solution hahahah. Pirates starting to believe their own lies. The talk of federalism first started in carta as a way of appeasing

SOMALILAND

. When like today they refused to have anything to do with Somalia. The pirates created baxbax land in 1998. Seeing how much

SOMALILAND

was beig offered. Baxbax land has never been a state it has alway been a means to an end to get whatever they could get from the remains of the failed state. The kismayo issue highlights my argument that when you try to forcibly take hag land with the assistance of Kenya and support of pirates their I'd Ethier a desire for domination or a fight for survival which is one and the same in somali standards.

In a topic of HAG V. SAHAL

 

[Tillamook]

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There is an African proverb that says, " when 2 elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers"...however, in the case of our bellicose habros in the north, it is NOT the grass that suffer but rather the insects in the grass that suffer, in reference to the HAG v SAHAL beef in Somalia..

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

HAG has a big chance of Winning Sahal team had made some strides but they will be counterattacked.

[Tillamook]

^

And that's the beauty of the game. You win some and you lose some, but always get ready for the next game.

 

So Xaaji Xunduf, why don't the habro join the tournament or are they still content on watching from the sidelines and pouting their mouth?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Somaliland will play both of you some where in the future if it came to it, but for now we need to have a winner between sahal and hag , thats more important because for them there is allot at stake., their entire sports future is on the line:D