LayZie G. Posted July 4, 2013 According to the Egyptian Envoy to the United States, Morsi's fall from grace was not a coup, but a scoop. Mohamed Tawfik: It's not a coup because the military did not take power. The military did not initiate it, it was a popular uprising. Similarly, Obama and his generals have been debating about this very same issue, the coup or the scoop debate well passed midnight. 4 out of the 6 generals that were said to be in the meeting voted for the scoop, but Obama said he will have to sleep on it and will decide in the morning because the issue of whether or not to withdrawl the remaining aid for the Egyptian military has to be decided, which makes this really a scoop as he cant afford to cut off his allies. But the fact that this is even an issue baffles me. Somewhere between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, a low ranking Morsy(Morsi) official had difficulty sleeping well into the night and instead decided to write the following on his facebook page: "For the sake of Egypt and for historical accuracy, let's call what is happening by its real name: Military coup." If this was a 'military coup', we would have seen target assassinations, overthrow of the entire government apparatus. This was nothing like the Military coup of Nigeria in the 60s, 70s, 80, and well into the 90s, and not to mention, this so called "Military coup" was nowhere close to the Red October 1979 Coup in El Salvador. So, is this really a coup or a scoop? Since Canada day, the following actions were undertaken by high ranking member of the Egyptian Armed Forces The EGYPTIAN army called for an emergency session, and invited Morsi's gangs, along with leader ElBaradei, top Muslim cleric Sheik Ahmed el-Tayeb and the respected Coptic Pope Tawadros II, as well as opposition activists and some members of the ultraconservative Salafi movements. (aka Jihadists) But Morsi did not RSVP. Instead, he was reportedly making electronic wire transfer from the central bank...and making travel plans as he was tweeting about his bravery to remain resilient in the face of adversary. And to make matters worse, this supposed 'military coup' that dominated headlines for the last 18 hours had well over half a million people protesting for days leading to Morsi's ouster, while millions more followed on social media and television. Talk about it being a military coup when it was a civilian led protests. lol...(A protest that drew a record number of protests to naar square that chanted down with morsi and Islamists)..but that didn't stop twitter from blowing up, or facebook, including the AP , and reuters. Most headlines went with the sleep derived official's label of this madness that the average political scientist couldn't possibly begin to understand. If this was a coup and not a scoop, the military would not have offered ultimatum, instead, they could have shot Morsi. But the only killing that occured was on the hands of Morsi's stooges who shot unarmed protests days leading up to the ouster. So far, the allegations against the Military is unsubstantiated, and the Al Jazeera stooges are nothing short of a mouth piece for the Islamists, so you can't really count on them to be fair and balanced. Mida kale, the reports about possible censorship and the closing of TV Stations is half true. There is only one credible source that has been confirmed that suggests Niqabi TV(or as Morsi likes to call it "WOMEN TV) was reportedly raided by members of the military. A soldier was said to have entered the premise, and approached a lady with a mask like garment and proceeded to remove the garment from her face, and moved to the next female, until there were no garments. Is this really censorship? These women havent seen sunlight in months...... More updates to follow......be sure to be part of the coup or scoop debate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warsamaale Posted July 4, 2013 The Egyptians demonstrations were the largest in history, yes in history. legitimacy comes from the people and they can withdraw it. Don't know why skinnies keep rooting for the MB while AS destroys their country. Mind your own business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted July 4, 2013 Leezi-Gaal, how can you explain the jailing of 300+ members of Mursi's circle, Mursi himself is in jail now, and all his government members are in prison outskirts of Cairo, so tell me if this is Af-Ganbi or Cantuugo, remember, me and you supported Mubarak to the core, and now I support Mursi because he was elected democratically. The US supported Mursi, and now MB will be back for the next election because no court can dismiss it, Egypt simply don't have a party that is strong as the MB, that illiterate Mohamed Elbaradei is a nuclear tool used and overused and would not be a president even though uu is qor-qoraayo asoo af yaanyo leh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickz Posted July 4, 2013 Apophis;966710 wrote: What utter nonsense. This was a coup against a democratically elected leader and no weaving and dodging will change that fact. Some appear to be utterly blinded by their hate for anyone who is a Muslim. This further proof this democracy being peddled by the West is an illusion. Its only a demcrotic process if an Islamic Party is not elected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted July 4, 2013 ^^ Hamas was a democratically elected, by majority, and you have seen how they have dismissed it, same stuff in Egypt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickz Posted July 4, 2013 nuune;966717 wrote: ^^ Hamas was a democratically elected, by majority, and you have seen how they have dismissed it, same stuff in Egypt. Exactly. This shows that Islam is incompatible with the Secular Systems the West wants us to adopt. We play by their rules and they still declare us extremists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warsamaale Posted July 4, 2013 what the fck do you know about democracy, geeljire ?? :cool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warsamaale Posted July 4, 2013 Democratically elected does not mean a suicide pact, where by you invite massacres on your electorate every 2 yrs by throwing primitive rockets at israel. waa caqli xumo waxaas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickz Posted July 4, 2013 warsamaale;966719 wrote: what the fck do you know about democracy, geeljire ?? :cool: Naga amos you doqon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warsamaale Posted July 4, 2013 learn to spell Somali before you use it , waa "aamus" not "amos", that later is a biblical name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted July 4, 2013 You would of course know about biblical names and don't diss Hamas, Shabab could learn a thing or two from them. Open schools, hospitals, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted July 4, 2013 Stuff and nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted July 4, 2013 They are arresting all the MB leaders. If this is not a coup I'm the queen of England! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickz Posted July 4, 2013 They have been planning it for awhile, all of the Islamic TV stations have been taken off air and the journalists have been arrested. Right now alot of the MB leaders are being rounded up and jailed. Its a complete take over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted July 4, 2013 It's proof enough that the Saudi king congratulated the Egyptian army for ousting Morsi! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites