Breaking news: Egypt Coup d'état, Morsy overthrown.

[kickz]

#AntiCoup Alliance @EgyAntiCoup

 

First female martyr in #Ismailia now. #EgyAnger #DayofRage pic.twitter.com/2wCkcXWeSt

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[Hobbesian_Brute]

Here is the MB motto " Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”

 

My question is why are they and their supporters whining, they got what they wanted right ??

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

Kickz, just making sure.

 

Hobbs, masakiintan are misguided, they are not dieing for Allah or Islam but Mohamed Morsi and his political party. These protesters have brought this country to its knees economically and socially. wonder why they don't just call it a day, sure by now they see the only way forward is compromise.

[Haatu]

kickz;973690 wrote:

The Messenger of Allah (SAW) told us that the greatest of the shuhada is the one who speaks a truthful word to a tyrant and is killed for it. But the ones who lack any ilm and fiqh would say, "Had he not said those words, he wouldn't have been killed."

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Yeah that's to the face of the tyrant, not screaming your lungs off in Tahrir square and getting shot by a sniper which is just sheer folly.

[Haatu]

Hobbesian_Brute;973700 wrote:

Here is the MB motto "

Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way.

Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope

.”

 

My question is why are they and their supporters whining, they got what they wanted right ??

The Muslim Brotherhood are a misguided lot. Do you know what the scholars call them? Ikhwaanul Muflisiin (Bankrupt Brotherhood)

[DoctorKenney]

Naxar Nugaaleed;973704 wrote:

Kickz, just making sure.

 

Hobbs, masakiintan are misguided, they are not dieing for Allah or Islam but Mohamed Morsi and his political party. These protesters have brought this country to its knees economically and socially. wonder why they don't just call it a day, sure by now they see the only way forward is compromise.

Naxar you have a very sick mentality. And a very twisted way of thinking. You're accusing the Muslim Brotherhood of bringing Egypt to it's knees, when you know very well that the corrupt Generals and their stooges are responsible for this mess in Egypt. Instead of respecting the democratic outcome, they initiate a Coup D'Etat simply because they THINK Mohamed Morsi is "too Islamist".

 

Put blame where the blame belongs. It's the Muslim Brotherhood that's being massacred. Its mosques that are being burnt, its "bearded men" are being harassed, imprisoned and killed by these godless Secularists, who are opposed to Islam having ANY influence in governmental affairs. The Islamists have the moral high-ground because they are the legitimate Leaders of Egypt, they were legitimately elected, and these despicable secularists refuse to understand that.

 

Allah knows Best, and Allah knows who is best deserving of His Mercy. If anything, these events in Egypt opened up the Muslim's eyes to the fact that these secularists, liberals, and Atheists are a huge threat, and should not be trusted at all. Morsi made the mistake of reaching out to them and trying to ally with them. At least now we know their true colors. Their opinions should never have been taken seriously. The Republicans of the USA dislike Obama, but you don't see them overthrowing the government and instituting marshal law, and persecuting anyone they suspect of supporting Obama. This type of stuff is almost unheard of, but it's happening in Egypt and these Liberals, who usually talk about "democracy" and "freedom", are applauding such actions.

 

At least now the Egyptians have learned their lesson.

 

"The Believer is not stung from the same hole twice" --Prophet Muhammad

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

Doctor, my mind, sick or not, is cognizant of the play being played out in the streets of Cairo. Liberals (and a few Islamist) came out to demand that Hosni, a dictator step down and for Democracy. They won, but the process gets hijacked by the brotherhood, sidelining democracy and marching Egypt towards a theocracy. People are still in the streets, economy tanks, instability spreads, the president was busy with headscarf fatwas. The Solders step in to clean things up and but the country on sure footing. The Islamist take to the Streets and the liberals are on the fence simultaneously uneasy about about the harsh treatment of the Islamist but certain that there are no receptive ears for their call for democratic rights between secular despots, generals and theocratic usurpers. All in all, am not accusing anyone, just seeing a need for people to cool, compromise and absorb the lessons from neighbors like Syria and Somalia of the consequence of mindless violence. No one wins, if rather then talking and compromising, each faction takes a turn at Tahrir square. I should tweet last line lol

[N.O.R.F]

^^You can't pick and choose what to consider in your analysis. Democracy was hijacked by a well planned and coordinated military coup which had outside help.

 

What you're saying is that if a government doesn't agree with it's opposition it should be removed in the same way.

[Hobbesian_Brute]

Folks need to learn the definition of democracy first.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

NORF well there is a precedent in using the military to safeguard democracy. This part of the world is very familiar with the concept and Turkey and Egypt are an example. If the government betrays the ideals on which its foundations stands, then there is a need for intervention. Some places have high courts and other have the military play this role. Every, in this conflict has Hijacked Democracy except the poor people who protested Hosni Mubarak only to get Morsi. The question of who is right, was right is useless at this stage. Whats useful is for people to return to their houses, the generals to step down starting the process of installing Egyptian democracy 2.0 and for all sides to look for areas of compromise that will like to a political system that they can all be part, secular and religious, liberal and conservative, Muslim and christian.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

It is what it is man, Mubarak was elected by 100 percent lol

[MoonLight1]

Naxar Nugaaleed;973731 wrote:

It is what it is man, Mubarak was elected by 100 percent lol

lol

 

comparing Mubarak's folly one man 99% referendums to an internationally observed free and fair elections is just sheer stup!dity.

 

MB did not just win presidential,

1) The January 2012 parliamentary elections majority was won by the MB party the (FJP) by a margin of %47.2

2) The June 2012 upper house elections result was %45.4 in favour of MB.

3) the December 2012 constitution referendum which the secular objected to was voted by %68 of Egyptians in favour.

 

So you've got 4 times the Egyptians spoke, what more proof do you need.

But when they realised they could not beat the MB on the ballot box they had to use the gun, ever heard the phrase "If you can't beat him, beat him".

 

 

 

Apophis;973731 wrote:

if an MB government is elected in “democracy 2.0", will you support another coup?

then you'll have 2.0 coup until the secular s get who they want.

[Hobbesian_Brute]

Yes, though i think the MB should be excluded from the whole political process in the first place. Islamists should never ever be allowed to hold reigns of power, its madness, they are no different from Branch Davidians or the Jim Jones Cult.

[Allyourbase]

When the MBs win on a platform other than 'Islam is the solution' you can talk of the will of the people, they've violated electoral guidelines time and time again. MBs have successfully managed to upset almost every group in Egyptian society to the point of forcing everyone to come out in protest on Jun 30th. What have they achieved in their year in office?

 

Their prime minister spent his time in office wondering whether unclean breasts cause diarrhea!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/06/egypt-hisham-kandil-unclean-breasts-diarrhea_n_2632719.html

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

Apophis;973730 wrote:

To the immoral bunch who support the military takeover in Egypt, I have a simply question for you: if an MB government is elected in “democracy 2.0", will you support another coup?

lol, democracy 2.0, there is no MB loool