Dabrow Posted June 30, 2013 http://saadaalnews.com/2013/06/30/war-hada-soo-dhacay-dowlada-soomaaliya-oo-amartay-in-la-badalo-ciidmada-kenya-ee-jooga-kismaayo-sababtu-maxay-tahay/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted June 30, 2013 Poor Culusow. The art of politics is knowing what battles to fight and when to fight them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted June 30, 2013 Sooner or later Kenya will leave Kismaayo. Just like the Xabashis in Xamar left, just like the US forces in Xamar left. The anger amongst the masses against these Kikuyus is already increasing. its a matter of time, till this happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted June 30, 2013 Carafaat, the people of Jubbooyinka have no such hate for the Kenyans like the reer Xamar had for the Xabashis. These guys freed them from the tyranny from Al Shabaab and gave them the opportunity to form their own administration at their own pace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 30, 2013 carafaat what is the difference between uganda an kenya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted June 30, 2013 Haatu;965530 wrote: Carafaat, the people of Jubbooyinka have no such hate for the Kenyans like the reer Xamar had for the Xabashis. These guys freed them from the tyranny from Al Shabaab and gave them the opportunity to form their own administration at their own pace. Haatu, both the Americans and Ethiopians came to Somalia with more "noble" causes like the Kenyans. But they started meddling in the fighting between different clan factions and we know how that ended, it created a backlash of Somalis turning against their 'saviors'. Till yesterday Kenya did not openly engage between the factions. This could result a part of the people resenting Kenya and then its a matter of time till the locals turn against the Kikuyu who came to save them against AL Shabaab. Just like the people earlier turned against the Ethiopians who came to save them from Al Shabaab, like the people turned against the Americans who came to save them from civil war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted June 30, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;965533 wrote: carafaat what is the difference between uganda an kenya Uganda has not (yet) meddled in the affairs between warring clan factions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted June 30, 2013 Carafaat, what clans are fighting in Kismaayo? Isn't Fartaag the same clan as Hiiraale? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted June 30, 2013 Haatu;965544 wrote: Carafaat, what clans are fighting in Kismaayo? Isn't Fartaag the same clan as Hiiraale? Yes he is. And I wouldn't be surprised if Barre Hiiraale has an assistant from Wardheer. But nonetheless its obvious Barre has the support of the Gedo clan(see the reactions of Gedo SOL members on the fighting Friday) and even the Prime-Minister, hence why the later is requesting for Kenya to be replaced because they choose sides between different factions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puntnomads Posted June 30, 2013 Carafaat Who sets Kenya mandate? USA What does USA care about? Al-Shabab Who is hurting Al-Shabab? AMISOM forces including Kenya, not the SFG Who has a bigger voice with the USA? Kenya or Mogadishu? Kenya probably What can SFG do to Kenya? Nothing but complain to the international community All that matters is the reality on the ground, diplomacy will change nothing. Those who cry about Kenya actions are wasting their time. Kenya liberated Kismaayo to give to their RK allies who helped them and they don't recognize other militias. I was laughing when Mogadishu said to AMISOM to treat both warring factions equally. Somali political positions may change at the drop of a hat but Kenya position is consistent. Kenya may actually go to the international community saying other militias are trouble makers and in order to restore the peace they have crush the other militias in Kismaayo. What will you say if Kenya openly said they support RK like how the SFG supports Hiraale? Why would the international community care if Kenya destroyed a tribal militia? The truth is nothing would happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puntnomads Posted June 30, 2013 Carafaat "why the later is requesting for Kenya to be replaced because they choose sides between different factions. " Has the government chosen Hiraale over Madoowe? Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted June 30, 2013 And madoobe is complaining that the Kenyan left alone his admiration the fight against the alshabaab. http://horufadhi.com/2013/06/30/axmed-madoobe-oo-hayadaha-baaq-u-direy-sheegayna-inay-kenya-ku-eegatay-shabaabdhagayso/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Homunculus Posted June 30, 2013 Their chosen warrior just joined Al Shabaab, the SFG couldn't mishandle the situation worse than it did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted July 1, 2013 puntnomads;965589 wrote: Carafaat "why the later is requesting for Kenya to be replaced because they choose sides between different factions. " Has the government chosen Hiraale over Madoowe? Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. The goverment did not shell, bomb,arrest nor expelled Axmed Madove and co. In fact the goverment us trying to find a peacefull solution and even held talks and signed agreement with Axmed Madobe and his group.The Kenyans shelled and bombed one of the warring factions, they arrested and expelled Federal goverment officials. Kenya does not have a mandate for this. This will for sure create another backlash. Hortay, havent you learned anything from the Xabashi endevour in Mogadishu? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted July 1, 2013 poor Carafaat is confused as ever. If Kenya took sides, why the majority of self declared presidents in Kismayo turned themselves in with their Militia to Kenyan troops at Airport? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
