Somaliland independence day 26 june celebrated at the Presidential palace in Hargeisa +PICS

[Mafia]

Somaliland is run by SNM gangs. Accept it.

 

GAROODI;964899 wrote:

Konfurians love to make themselves feel better by knocking he achievements of SOMALILAND. Today I have a democratic nation that controls its territory. I can go home to my villa. Travel freely across my country without any threats. I have the Red Sea, the golis mountains. The green fields of borama. The plains. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. We have a state without recognition. You have recognition without state I know which one i would have.

[Mafia]

I wholeheartedly agree with the notion that Somaliland can self-administer itself, and the proof is the relative peace that Landers enjoy today. But, why would someone that isn't from the SNM clan want to be subjected to a tribal state? The Khaatumites, Awdalites, Zeylacis, etc dearly and proudly hold their Soomalinimo and reject any notion of being part of tribal state, where they are treated as second class -- SNM has no right to break these people from their country of Somalia.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Its funny few years ago the Pirates were saying the SNM are the mugged once lol And now they are singing a different tune. Somaliland is one nation and its people have chosen their path. A tribal goverment is based in Somalias Mogadishu where one clan holds all the seats of the govt, hence why professor samatar the last honest union left the clanish Koonfurian camp:D

[Mafia]

Well said! Samatar, I think was one of the last remaining honest unists in the country and someone that I very much respect. I never believed in regional states drawn along tribal lines (puntland, jubbaland, somaliland, etc) but the undertakings of President Xassan in Mogadishu really challenged that notion. He wants to establish a HAG nation with a blind faith that he can do it. Alas. But that by itself isn't a reason to abandon Somalia. Someone honest will come through when it's the right time and people are ready for it. In the meantime time, viva SL, PL, JL, Khaatumo, Gal-mudug, etc

 

Xaaji Xunjuf;964915 wrote:

A tribal goverment is based in Somalias Mogadishu where one clan holds all the seats of the govt, hence why professor samatar the last honest union left the clanish Koonfurian camp:D

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The Somali republic was never a nation state it was a creation of 2 separate states so no one was abandoning there was Pragmatical union which could benefit both but that died. The experiment failed miserably which led to full destruction of Somaliland and the total state collapse of Somalia. So no one is abandoning Somalia, because Somalia was never theirs. Let it go its natural way.

[Mafia]

Xaaji Xunjuf;964920 wrote:

The Somali republic was never a nation state it was a creation of 2 separate states so no one was abandoning there was Pragmatical union which could benefit both but that died. The experiment failed miserably which led to full destruction of Somaliland and the total state collapse of Somalia. So no one is abandoning Somalia, because Somalia was never theirs. Let it go its natural way.

See, that is the problem. It wasn't pragmatic union of two states, but rather the union of all the FREE Somali people. If the ****** were free, it will be part to that union. The fact that British kicked your *** instead of Italians doesn't make you an inherently separate people and isn't alone a determinant factor of a nation.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

You cannot unite based on we speak the same language and fake emotions u have to share the same values share the same political interests economic interests u have to have the same political culture same mentality same ethics traditions same plight. You have to have the same history which we do not have , fact is before the Colonialists came to the horn there was no such thing as a Somali state. Before 1896 we were never one nation, the union was never really negotiated it was just done because Somali speaking people at that time believed lets build a Somali empire. And the reason why we tried is we never lived under one state it was an experiment. We didn't really know each other that well but the 30 year union we got to know each other 2 well. So when ever the Koonfurians who by the way cant unite 2 districts in Somalia talk about the fake Somaliweyn. Its just shows whats wrong with Somalia.

[Mafia]

You lost me there, XX. To put it plainly, you are disillusioned. People validate their prejudice against other Somalis in order to separate/break them up on the basis of 1) tribal precept and 2) Slight variations in dialect that goes along with it. That is it! To me, these only strengthen our originality - they don't take away from our unity and Somalinimo.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

^^ There is no such thing as Somalinimo,you dont even know what it means many dont even know the definition of Somalinimo is it based on politics cultural identity unity what is it . Language and close cultural identity does not make people a nation or a state. If that was the case The Belgium and the Dutch would have been united. If that was the case the 22 Arab nations would have been one country. If that was the case the Tigrinya speaking people on both side of the mereb river Eritrea Ethiopia would be one country. If that was the case Kosovo and Albania Ethnic Albanians would be one country.If that was the case new zealand and australia would have been united. The fact is that there are far more things that divides us than unites us. When it comes to politics when it comes to history when it comes to culture when it comes to ethics when it comes to Political cultural the Somali Kenyans the way they view Somalia is not the same the way you view Somalia or the way the Somali speaking Djiboutians view Somalia is not the same way you view it. Clearly we are not the same people as the way you wish us to be but there are are some similarities but we do not share a nation nor a nationality. There is one thing we agree on is that we share the same language but language is not enough to unite. By the way for many particularly Koonfurians unionism for them it means expansion subjugation, and that shit is not going to fly. Somali speaking people agree that they do not share the same interests in the horn that is a fact and you have to deal with that. Because these are the facts on the ground, we do not even have the same independence day.

[Aaliyyah]

Mafia;964914 wrote:

why would someone that isn't from the SNM clan want to be subjected to a tribal state? The Khaatumites, Awdalites, Zeylacis, etc dearly and proudly hold their Soomalinimo and reject any notion of being part of tribal state.

+1000

[Alpha Blondy]

Xaaji Xunjuf;964932 wrote:

^^ There is no such thing as Somalinimo,you dont even know what it means many dont even know the definition of Somalinimo is it based on politics cultural identity unity what is it . Language and close cultural identity does not make people a nation or a state. If that was the case The Belgium and the Dutch would have been united. If that was the case the 22 Arab nations would have been one country. If that was the case the Tigrinya speaking people on both side of the mereb river Eritrea Ethiopia would be one country. If that was the case Kosovo and Albania Ethnic Albanians would be one country.If that was the case new zealand and australia would have been united. The fact is that there are far more things that divides us than unites us. When it comes to politics when it comes to history when it comes to culture when it comes to ethics when it comes to Political cultural the Somali Kenyans the way they view Somalia is not the same the way you view Somalia or the way the Somali speaking Djiboutians view Somalia is not the same way you view it. Clearly we are not the same people as the way you wish us to be but there are are some similarities but we do not share a nation nor a nationality. There is one thing we agree on is that we share the same language but language is not enough to unite. By the way for many particularly Koonfurians unionism for them it means expansion subjugation, and that shit is not going to fly. Somali speaking people agree that they do not share the same interests in the horn that is a fact and you have to deal with that. Because these are the facts on the ground, we do not even have the same independence day.

+1

[Mafia]

XX, Aside from the obvious and the undeniable truth that Somali people form a single thread that is indivisible by any logic, my argument is really that "The whole is greater than the sum of the parts." Any way you cut it. The scenario that plays out in my mind is the Somali republic being broken up and miniaturized so as to render it weak, small and, and an enemy of one another. Ultimately, ceding power and dignity of our people to Xabashis, Kikuyus and other African sub-normalities. Clearly, Present Xassan is making it easier for that to materialize sooner rather than later. That much we agree.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The former Somali republic is already broken it was dissolved in 1991 there is no going back on that the 1960 union has been totally destroyed and now what is left of Somalia is being more deeply divided. There is nothing unique of the Somali speaking people in the horn they live in different countries and ethno nationalism failed them. They never shared a country before colonialism and certainly not after. Somalia and Somaliland and Djibouti do not need to be enemy of each other i am against that they can even cooperate but on equal terms no country dominating the other no subjugation.But that is unlikely to happen since once side is against the aspirations of the others. The future can only be better if we all respect each other and truly understand what went wrong. But aslong as koonfurians portray themselves as the sole protectors of an illusive Somaliweyn.Thats not going to work others will make sure that Somaliweyn remains buried for centuries to come.

[IsseRiyole]

It was great and every year after June 26th is getting much stronger, sorry I forget to check in and wish my Habaryaroows happy june 26th. but did post in all other media outlets. God Bless Somali land and may allah show mercy those who oppose the well being of the Somali land Society. Move on

[GAROODI]

Mafia you made one mistake and that was that you actually think we care what you or your people think. Like I said SOMALILAND is a state without recognition you are with recognition but don't have a state. As far as I am concerned your a protectorate of the A.U. In all but name if you have the balls to meet me at the border then by all means continue talking but while your president is being escorted to the toilet by general ogubango please sit down because your words mean nothing. Somalilands population agreed on there state in 1991 all the clans genuinely participated and are signatures. No one is a second class citizen don't confuse us with Somalia. I have had a president form awdal or more then 8 years. When was the last time you had a non hag president. Stop wasting our time with your emotions. We are a multiparty democracy what are you? A 4.5 based au protected colony that is the bastion of all misery left on earth