burahadeer Posted June 14, 2013 Cambuulo iyo bun;961851 wrote: To qoute abdirahman Moallim, ''labo jeer ayaan maqlay majority mar waxey ahayd 91dii markii ciidamada belgiumka kismayo joogen iyo hadda oo ciidamado kenyan joogtey ma ciidamada shisheeye ayaad tiraha ka darsatiin? :D :D:D on the money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted June 14, 2013 Cmbuulo, c'mon let's not be disingenuous. You can disagree but We live from Gaalkacyo to the Kenyan border isn't going to wash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted June 14, 2013 Homunculus;961808 wrote: It's a tragedy that we haven't evolved as a nation, no wonder Somalilanders want to separate (but they will not take us with them). Somaliland is successful because it's only one tribe. That's why they are fighting in Khaatumo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted June 14, 2013 To UNIVERSAL: This is definitely NOT how to compete with Somali Channel, which is beating you left and right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambuulo iyo bun Posted June 14, 2013 xiinfaniin;961911 wrote: To UNIVERSAL: This is definitely NOT how to compete with Somali Channel, which is beating you left and right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 14, 2013 Mad_Mullah;961909 wrote: Somaliland is successful because it's only one tribe. That's why they are fighting in Khaatumo. Nope its several tribes the borama tribe the seylac tribe the hargeisa tribe the makhir tribe. There is no war with khatumo when did you hear there was a war? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 14, 2013 The camelover guy was hilarious to but its obvious they agreed that jubbaland has more than 40 clans , and Ahmed madoobe just represents his clan. The debate was actually not that bad, because people were being honest. People were talking about clan dulmi subjugation expansionism, foreign intervention. And these are the key problems. Not some constitution there is no proper reconciliation between the people who live there. The constitution is not the problem its the people who cant agree. And finally Universal TV is putting it in context, and people see what is wrong with Somalia. its some times good to speak your mind its part of the caafimaad. No need to hide and hide your feelings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted June 15, 2013 Mad_Mullah;961909 wrote: Somaliland is successful because it's only one tribe. That's why they are fighting in Khaatumo. Somaliland is one tribe. But Khatumo, Makhir iyo Puntland are three tribes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nin-Yaaban Posted June 15, 2013 Walle Somalia u dhamaatay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khadafi Posted June 15, 2013 Nin-Yaaban;961987 wrote: Walle Somalia u dhamaatay. Nin yaaban, wax hadaan la yaabo waxaan dhaahaa "nin aan yaabin ayaa yaabay". It is truly something to be disgusted by, Seeing grown men calling openly for wars and destruction while their own children are living in comfort in the West. Universal TV has an ethical responsibility to wisely choose it's it's debaters. It is fast becoming a horrible version of Rawanda-1994 radiostation that spreads hate. Whats worse or depressing to see how quickly the hatred from the past comes to the surface. Soomaaliya has long bumpy way to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted June 15, 2013 Khadafi;962030 wrote: Nin yaaban, wax hadaan la yaabo waxaan dhaahaa "nin aan yaabin ayaa yaabay". It is truly something to be disgusted by, Seeing grown men calling openly for wars and destruction while their own children are living in comfort in the West. Universal TV has an ethical responsibility to wisely choose it's it's debaters. It is fast becoming a horrible version of Rawanda-1994 radiostation that spreads hate. Whats worse or depressing to see how quickly the hatred from the past comes to the surface. Soomaaliya has long bumpy way to go. Ma aragtey. It was shocking what some of the guests were saying even if they weren't serious. Stuff like that adds fuel to the fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambuulo iyo bun Posted June 15, 2013 Haatu;962031 wrote: Ma aragtey. It was shocking what some of the guests were saying even if they weren't serious. Stuff like that adds fuel to the fire. one of the most entertaining debates i've seen wallee it was epic qosol baan uu dhintay too bad there wasn't many Sahal's in the show Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tutu Posted June 15, 2013 And you wonder why Somalia has been in turmoil for the last two decades? With such degenerative and chest-thumbing attitude, nothing is coming of that God-forsaken land in the near future. Sad, indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warsamaale Posted June 15, 2013 +1, totally agree with you tutu. i have always said Somalia does not have a clan problem per se but a temperament problem. a Somali man never grows up essentially but is perpetually in an infant like state until he dies. if you read the ancient descriptions of the Somali peninsula they talk of land inhabited by a rowdy, unruly band of barbarians who especially quarrelsome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 15, 2013 Haatu;962031 wrote: Ma aragtey. It was shocking what some of the guests were saying even if they weren't serious. Stuff like that adds fuel to the fire. They are being honest all they need to be honest now about is reconciliation it shows there is huge distrust its shows people cannot share a land or an administration. I mean back in the days they were all singing Somaliya tooso , but it had a weak foundation. The moment you create clan federalism is the moment Somalis will go mad. I think this clan federalism will be another major challenge for Somalida. Even though qurbajoogta are more tribalists than the normal people back home. But still they play a major role in preparing their communities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites