Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 29, 2013 Ethiopias best fighter jet Su27 its a good plane it has the best doppler radar it can carry a wide range of weaponry in the air,Ethiopia has about 20 of these. It has 15 mm Gatling gun on both of the wings Egypt on the other hand has F16S now this baby can do allot of damage F-16 can carry a heaviest load and more variety of weapons and missiles. With modern target data, it has 4 hard points on each wing . And it has AN/APG-68 radar. It has more than 50 of those Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted May 29, 2013 If we were actually a unified country with foresight, we would entice Djibouti into an agreement through our lucrative oil-wealth whereby any Ethiopian dam that potentially threatens the flow of the Somali rivers, will result in the suspension of its access to any Somali port in the region, and hence cut off its link with the rest of the world. Djibouti would get reimbursed by the Sovereign Wealth Fund of Somalia (SWFS), similar to the Denmark - Greenland subsidies for the loss of port revenue. This is how countries secure their national interests, and which is also why this same country in question is all up in our business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted May 29, 2013 Chimera;956504 wrote: ^ The only individual here that understands what's at stake here . Its in our interest that Ethiopia's dam adventures fail, and being part of their power grid is to invite a situation similar to Russia and Eastern Europe, with regards to energy supplies, i.e dependency. I brought up this issue long time ago:p http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/70193-Egypt-courts-South-Sudan-over-Nile-waters-deals?highlight=nile+river Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted May 29, 2013 ^A future Somalia has many options to counter the impact of Ethiopia's plans: 1) Halt the plans through legal means via the UN 2) Entice Djibouti into an agreement. 3) Free port access, on the condition that any plans are scrapped. 4) Rain-harvesting 5) Desalination plants 6) Wind-farms along Somalia's coast = exporting surplus energy to countries around the region, and undercutting Ethiopia's destination for revenue, making any future loans and bonds-sales to foot the bill for any new dam project highly unlikely, and not worth it. 7) Military confrontation (not today, in the future), in the form of a naval blockade of Ethiopian goods. A combination of the first five options would secure Somalia's national interests, and we are lucky that we have a sizable population whose food/water security quota can be secured by 10 desalination plants, and mega storage tanks strategically positioned across the country for maximum accumulation, unlike either Egypt or Ethiopia's whose populations are becoming unsustainable. This would be a Somali energy plan totaling $15 billion in the span of 20 years, with 2 new plants constructed every four years. There are 13 thousand desal plants in operation around the world, and it takes 1/3 the time to build one compared to a dam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted May 29, 2013 The most effective method to stop them would be to seed all the monsoon rain clouds which pass over Somalia on their way to Ethiopia so that all the rain falls on Somalia or on the sea thereby creating artificial drought for Ethiopia. But this method needs a lot of technology and resources;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted May 29, 2013 That would hurt our kin across the border before it would impact the highlands, not an option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted May 29, 2013 Yes it will hurt our kin but would also cause a major problem for the highland;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted May 29, 2013 It would be a high-tech environmental war;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted May 29, 2013 Ethiopia already runs the Horn, imagine if they become more powerful. I'm backing Egypt a 100% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 29, 2013 ^^ Ethiopia is only strong because , Somalis screwed up. In reality Ethiopia is poor and an artificial state with no real leadership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reeyo Posted May 29, 2013 Ethiopia is very strong and this step just secures it's future development. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted May 30, 2013 I see the kids have invaded this thread! Mad_Mullah;956477 wrote: A war between Egypt and Ethiopia will benefit the Somalis . But I don't think the UN will allow it. Btw. there's a Hadith that says that the destruction of Egypt will come by the drying up of the Nile. Even if you look at it now, their economy is based on the Nile with most cities right next to it. Err..how will a war benefit Somalis? Somalia is struggling to get itself fixed never mind having to deal with a full scale war next door to it, saaxib. You're a Somali so surely you realise what the results of war are. Can you stop 80 million refugees running into Somalia? Can you stop the resulting "jabhado" and Shabab-like groups that would come out of a warring Ethiopia? This story is only interesting from a political point of view. However, if it ever gets bad enough that a war starts between Egypt & Sudan on one hand versus Ethiopia on the other, it will be bad news for the whole of East Africa (and more so for Somalia). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted May 30, 2013 ElPunto;956500 wrote: Not sure it's good longterm for Somalis. Next they may damn the Juba and Shabelle - they already have a small dam on the latter. And unlike Egypt/Sudan - there is no agreement with Somalia. Kismayo will cease to exist:D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Homunculus Posted May 30, 2013 Beggars can't be choosers. I might be disconnected from the geopolitical pulse in the horn of Africa but Somalia is falling behind in all aspects and I don't think the prosperity of our neighbours will make things worse at least in the short term. I might be naive but if Somalis get their collective behinds together and have a modicum of a functioning country I wouldn't mind if Ethiopia and Kenya are prospering too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted May 30, 2013 Somalia should do this and Somalis should do that naga daaya baliis. The Ethiopians are doing well in all aspects of their development and Somalis are fighting over dusty towns instead of coming to an agreement. Somali leaders know their tuulo. Ethiopian leaders attended posh private schools in the west (and have good relations with the west). They are true nationalists and work towards bringing Ethiopia up out of poverty (yes they also brutalise in the process). This is issue won't go away. Egypt will bide it's time but a compromise will be reached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites