xiinfaniin Posted May 26, 2013 Xayiraad kusoo rogtey wafuuda Dowlada Federaalka ah ee Kismaayo imanaya Kismaayo 25 may,2013–Pi– Sida ay warar hoose ku heleen Puntlandi Dowlada Jubaland waxay si toosa u joojiyeen Wafuuda Dowlada Federaalku usoo dirayaan dhamaan deegaanada Jubaland. Sida aan warka ku helney Dowlada Federaalka waxaa lagu wargaliyey in uusan Jubooyinka imaan karin Masuul aan ogolaansho ka heysan Dowlada Jubaland, Waxaa sidoo kale AMISOM lagu war galiyey ineysan Jubooyinka usoo diri karin Masuuliyiinta Dowlada ee aan ogolaanshaha ka heysan Dowlada Jubaland. Sida muuqata Taliska Amisom waxay u hogaansameen go’aanka kasoo baxay Dowlada Jubaland ka dib markii Maanta laga celiyey wafdi Sadax wasiir ka kooban oo u socday Kismaayo. Taliska Amisom ayaa wafdiga Wasiirada u sheegey ineysan Kismaayo u duuli karrin hadiivaysan Ogolaansho ka heysan Maamulka Dowlada Jubaland. wasiirada laga celiyey Garoonka diyaaradaha Muqdishi maanta waxay kala ahaayeen Wasiirada Gaashaandhiga, kan Warfaafinta iyo kan Arimaha Gudaha. Dhinaca Kalwe Afhayeenka Dowlada Jjubaland Cabdinaasir Seeraar oo Shir jaraa’id ku qabtey Kismaayo wuxuu Madaxweyne Xasan Sheikh ku eedeeyey inuu yahay Nin Qabiil u adeega uuna Qas iyo dagaal hurin ka wada Jubooyinka. waxaa hadaladiisa ka mid ahaa“waxbadan baan dulqaadaneyney oo Maamulka Muqdisho u dulqaadanaynay lakiin dulqaadlii waa dhamaadey waxaad mooda ineysan fahmayn afka wanaagsan laakiin hada waxaan kuwada hadleynaa afkay fahmayaa.” Sida Puntlandi warar hoose ku heleen Dowlada Jubaland wa xay kalsoonidii Dowladnimo kala laabteen Dowlada Federaalka ah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 26, 2013 KISMAAYO: Maamulka Jubbaland oo amray in Kismaayo isaga baaxaan saraakiil ka socotay DF oo ku sugnaa Magaalada Kismaayo (Warbixin) May 25, 2013 Wararka naga soo gaaraya Dowlad goboleedka Jubbaland ayaa sheegaya, in Dowlad goboleédka Maamulka Jubbaland uu istaagiyey imaanshaha Wasiiro ka socda DF ee Soomaaliya oo Kismaayo kusoo fool lahaa , isla markaasna loogu baaqay Saraakiil booqasho ku joogay Magaalada Kismaayo oo ka socday DF ee Soomaaliya inay isaga baxaan guddaha magaalada Kismaayo Masuuliyiinta Jubbaland oo shir deg deg ku yeeshay magaalada Kismaayo ayaa si deg deg uga baaqay kooxaha ka socdaý DF ee Soomaaliya ee ku sugan magaalada Kismaayo inay isaga baxaan magaalada Kismaayo kaddib markii laga warhelay inay kala furfurayaan Ciidamada Jubbooyinka. Maamulka Cusub ee Jubbooyinka oo beryihii la soo dhaafay dulqaad u muujiyey masuuliyiin ka socotay DF ee Soomaaliya oo Kismaayo ku sugnaa ayaa hadda loo maleeyo inay go’aan wanaagsan ka qaateen Masuuliyiinta sheeganaya DF ee Soomaaliya ee qaska ka waday guddaha magaalada Kismaayo. Shacabka Jubbooyinka ayaa aad usoo dhaweeyey go’aanka wanaagsan ee ay qaateen Maamulka cusub ee Jubbaland, kuwaas oo talaabada ay qaadeen Maamulka Jubbaland ku tilmaamay arrin wanaagsan oo mudan in la soo dhoweeyo. Puntlandpost, Kismaayo, Jubbaland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted May 26, 2013 ^^ The safar suppossed to happen yesterday 25th of May 2013, wuu baaqdey, Fiqi said, it was logistical reasons and they will go tomoro which is today 26th of May 2013, bal lets wait, is that what the article you posted talking about AGAIN safarka waa la baajiyey today. Wallee meeshan waxa ka soo fool leh, talaw waxbaa la rimanyahayee muxuu noqon doonaa aayahiisa. Wasiirro ka Tirsan Xukuumadda Soomaaliya oo ka Baaqday Safar ay ku tegi lahaayeen Maanta Magaalada Kismaayo Sabti, May 25, 2013 (HOL) — Wafdi uu hoggaaminayo wasiirka gaashaandhigga Somalia, C/xakiin Maxamuud Xaaji Fiqi oo ay ka mid yihiin: wasiirka warfaafinta, C/llaahi Ciilmooge Xirsi iyo wasiirka cadaaladda, C/llaahi Ayan Nuur ayaa ka baaqday safar ay maanta ku tegi lahaayeen magaalada Kismaayo ee xarunta gobolka Jubbada Hoose, kaddib buuq ka dhashay tegistooda Kismaayo. Maamulka Sheekh Axmed Madoobe ayaa la sheegay inuu ku baaqay in wafdi kale oo ka socda dowladda Soomaaliya aysan doonayn inay yimaadaan Kismaayo, iyagoo saraakiisha ciidamada AMSIOM ee Kismaayo ku sugan ay dalbadeen in dib loo dhigo safarka wasiirrada dowladda Soomaaliya. Wasiirka gaashaandhigga ayaa HOL u sheegay in safarkooda maanta uu baaqday balse ay maalinta berri ah u dhoofi doonan Kismaayo, isagoo intaas ku daray inay yihiin xubno u tagaya Kismaayo xaqiiro raadin, si ay u soo ogaadaan xaaladda Kismaayo ka jirta, balse ma uusan sheegin xilliga ay soo laaban doonaan. Laakiinse wararka la helayo ayaa in saraakiisha ciidanka Kenya ee ku sugan Kismaayo ay wadaan dadaallo ay kaga doonayaan inay kaga dhaadhiciyaan maamulka Axmed Madoobe in wafdigan wasiirrada ah ay yimaadaan Kismaayo. Sidoo kale, maamulka Axmed Madoobe ayaa sheegay in wafdigii hore ee dowladda ka socday oo ku sugnaa Kismaayo aysan waxba isla gaarin taas darteedna aysan aqbali karin wafdi kale oo ka socda dowladda Soomaaliya Kismaayo yimaadaan. Mas’uuliyiinta maamulka Axmed Madoobe oo maanta shir ku yeesheen Kismaayo ayaa cambaareeyay siyaasadda dowladda Soomaaliya ee gobollada Jubbooyinka ku wajahan. Magaalada Kismaayo ayaa waxaa ka taagan xiisad ka dhalatay go’aankii ay madaxda IGAD kasoo saareen maamulka Jubaland oo dhawaan Kismaayo looga dhawaaqay, waxaana magaaladaas ku sugan illaa shan ruux oo mid walba uu sheeganayo inuu yahay madaxweynaha Jubaland. Dhanka kale, wafdiga dowladda ee ku sugan Kismaayo ayaa ka cabanaya in aysan jirin wadashaqeyn u dhexeysa iyaga iyo ciidamada Kenya ee qayta ka ah AMISOM, iyadoo xildhibaan Xoosh uu sheegay in ciidamadan ay u sheegeen inaysan sugi karin ammaankooda. Maxamed Xaaji Xuseen, Hiiraan Online maxuseen@hiiraan.com Muqdisho, Soomaaliya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 26, 2013 Only a fool misses what is on the offing! War is inevitable sadly. From what I understand, Mogadishu's strategy is to send a delegation led by a man from Gedo, if all other things fail, and dare Madoobe to stop them. Obviously, Fartaag will be asked to do that job, but this move has the potential to anger Gedo-ans and as the two sides start shooting at each other, Mogadishu will send reinforcements. Taas kama fursan doonto, hadaan xal siyaasadeed la gaadheen. I am not in the mood of blaming any side at this stage. I am more worried about the vitriol and vilification of one Somali clan - Faroole's clan - who are singled out as the Jews of Somalia - in the same way Hitler singled out Jews for all ills in Europe. HAG propaganda against this clan is worrying. Likewise, SAHAL's hate for anyone that shares lineage with HAG (although does not share same philosophy) is also alarming. The end of IGAD as a scarecrow has caught HAG propaganda strategists by surprise. But they have regrouped rather well and have now turned the torch on a new villain - the MJs. In the coming few weeks, expect more stories about who started the first rebellion against Siyad Barre (implying revolting against dictatorship was wrong), who led Ethiopia to Mogadishu (as if Ali Gheedi was not on the first Ethiopian chopper that landed in Mogadishu along with Yusuf), and who is the lupus of Somalia's politics. Do you sense a Deja Vu, here! Don't worry if none of Sheikh Ahmed Madoobe and Fartaag are not MJ's. The omnipresent, the immanent MJ's are the cause for all that goes wrong in Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted May 26, 2013 Good analysis Diktoore, but hope the two sides gets into agreement to avid war(Daqane posted that the new wafdi arrived in Kismaayo and were transported to a hotel in downtown), it is not clear whom they going to meet, but they will meet the elected president of Jubbaland, President Barre Hiiraale(as was reported by pro-government websites, midnimo, daynniile etc). I haven't seen President Hassan's speech at the Addis Ababa conference, but those who watched or read the text of his speech said the mention of 'Kismaayo' in his speech outnumbered the number of times he mentioned Somalia(which was once: by telling the African leaders to come to the Somalia Conference in Japan on 31st of May 2013, 5 days from now). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 26, 2013 It is good to know the government delegation has landed. This removes one confrontation which will have caused immediate conflict. But a government's task is to govern, not to land! Waxaan uga fadhinaa xal siyaasadeed oo dadka ka badbaadiya dagaal! Hadii ay xal u arkaan inay xoog wax ku maquuniyaan, xal ma noqon doonto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted May 26, 2013 Do you know by chartering an airline with 20 seats or less as in this case from Xamar to Kismaayo costs $23,000 both legs, from Wilson toXamar is double that figure, that doesn't include the Pilot's daily allowance and the crew which is around $5,000 on every journey, this is outside their salary. So how many wafdi arrived Kismaayo in the last few weeks, lacagtaasi soo ma wanaagsano in meel fiican la galiyo iyo mashaariic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daqane Posted May 26, 2013 Abtigiis;955048 wrote: Only a fool misses what is on the offing! War is inevitable sadly. From what I understand, Mogadishu's strategy is to send a delegation led by a man from Gedo, if all other things fail, and dare Madoobe to stop them. Obviously, Fartaag will be asked to do that job, but this move has the potential to anger Gedo-ans and as the two sides start shooting at each other, Mogadishu will send reinforcements. Taas kama fursan doonto, hadaan xal siyaasadeed la gaadheen. I am not in the mood of blaming any side at this stage. I am more worried about the vitriol and vilification of one Somali clan - Faroole's clan - who are singled out as the Jews of Somalia - in the same way Hitler singled out Jews for all ills in Europe. HAG propaganda against this clan is worrying. Likewise, SAHAL's hate for anyone that shares lineage with HAG (although does not share same philosophy) is also alarming. The end of IGAD as a scarecrow has caught HAG propaganda strategists by surprise. But they have regrouped rather well and have now turned the torch on a new villain - the MJs. In the coming few weeks, expect more stories about who started the first rebellion against Siyad Barre (implying revolting against dictatorship was wrong), who led Ethiopia to Mogadishu (as if Ali Gheedi was not on the first Ethiopian chopper that landed in Mogadishu along with Yusuf), and who is the lupus of Somalia's politics. Do you sense a Deja Vu, here! Don't worry if none of Sheikh Ahmed Madoobe and Fartaag are not MJ's. The omnipresent, the immanent MJ's are the cause for all that goes wrong in Somalia. Loool the only strategy being used is the one that was stated very clearly by gabbal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warsamaale Posted May 26, 2013 All this petulance because you cant get your way ? Huh, obviously you thought you were gonna get a Bantu-stan where Madoobe's clan would reign supreme. all the more to oppose this fiasco orchestrated in Kenya. forget it, sxb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 27, 2013 As of today no delegation was allowed in Kismayo . By all reports Mogadishu delegation is sleeping at the airport tonight. The condition is very simple : Recognize the Jubbaland admin or dont bother coming to Kismayo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted May 27, 2013 xiinfaniin;955314 wrote: As of today no delegation was allowed in Kismayo . By all reports Mogadishu delegation is sleeping at the airport tonight. The condition is very simple : Recognize the Jubbaland admin or dont bother coming to Kismayo Refusing the entry of a goverment delegation on Somali soil, that is quite provocating. Madobe is playing with fire. War is not the answer. Yaa wax u sheega dadkaan durbaanka si tumiya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted May 27, 2013 ^Chimera - I'd like your take on how we resolve the current issues re Jubaland and federalism more broadly to get to the picture there. Hassan Shiikh has no idea the limits of the power of the Presidency in the new Somalia. When his delegation is 'deported' from a Somali city - that should give him pause to try to change his tactics. There is no imperial presidency - all he can hope to be is a compromiser-in-chief to knit together a divided country. Is it me - or has the ban on naming clans outright relaxed on SOL? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted May 27, 2013 ^ No. Only the laangaabs can't be mentioned on SOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macallinka Posted May 27, 2013 ^For some people are allowed to mention Qabil names others will be banned outright if they mention a qabil names that was the warning i was given when i joined . Abtigis, Your right 100% . Am surprised there is no war in Kismaayo after all these provocations from both sides , I hope it stays that way. I don't like the way the government is handling this situation , I also don't like the way reer Puntland websites are covering these stories , one title reads : Waftigi DF oo Muqdisho lagu celinayo ayakoo aan Kismaayo galin.....they are just adding more fuel to the fire. If a war breaks tomorrows in Kismaayo (God forbid) the ppl who will be loosing the most will be reer Afmadoow and Gedo. And then u will hear dadka walalah waa in la nabadeeyaa , dhiiga muslimka waa in la joojiya.......and now everyone is making the situation worse . So lets hope that these communities understand what is at stake and avoid face to face confrontation by all means inshallah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites