BREAKING NEWS: We will defend Somaliland, Ethiopian PM Hailemariam Desalegn

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Saalax;952727 wrote:

Let's face it Somalia is more of a threat to Somaliland, between 1981-1991 Somalia was waging war against the main

ethnic group in Somaliland. We have no lost love for Somalia. Any measures to tame them if they try to get out of line

again will be welcomed.

Somalia might have problems with Somaliland statehood independence , but its not in the interests in our long term interests that Ethiopia becomes more powerful and have hegemony over the horn. You are talking about the short term objectives. In the long term Somalia and Somaliland must defend their economic and political interests together. And should have a common defense policy, Xabashis are not our brothers.

[Saalax]

What planet are you living on? The same Somalia that is trying to deny your existence and did not even

apologize for its war against Somaliland between 1981-1991? As the saying goes the enemy of my

enemy is my friend. Somaliland does not necessarily need the aid of other nations it can handle

its own, anything that will frighten Somalia from ever trying to make the same mistake thinking

it can attack Somaliland is welcome though.

[D.O.C]

Haatu;952730 wrote:

War stop deluding yourself. Outside of clan skirmishes, no one is going to see a replay of the civil war and its horrors. Neither Somalia nor SL has the public will for war against kin.

Repeat of civil war? Please rephrase this then I can comment.

[Haatu]

D.O.C;952735 wrote:

Repeat of civil war? Please rephrase this then I can comment.

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[D.O.C]

Haatu;952737 wrote:

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Somaliland is a nation so is somalia, kala garo nin iyo geed.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The Ethiopians just want to pressure the president of Somalia to accept the Jubbaland declared state since IGAD is Ethiopias play ground. Somaliland doesn't need much support from Somalia, Since Somalia is not a threat to Somaliland nor is Alshabaab nor is the African union guarded government in Mogadishu. So the Ethiopians are just playing their cards instead of saying we are against the Somali government approach in Kismayo. They go on and on about Somaliland and about their relationship with Somaliland which was the same since 1996. The Ethiopians are never honest about their policies towards Somalia and Somaliland.

[nuune]

Oodka, can you please remind the folks here that the source of this article is not to be trusted as it is from oppossition from the Ethiopian side.

 

Also, Oodka, can you also remind them the author of this article is called: Somali-Ethio as it is clear from the source.

 

 

I am actually concerned with the sources of materials that are lately being posted here on SOL.

[malistar2012]

Xaaji

 

Stop the cover up , Hargesa admin owes its dependence on Ethiopian regime , which armed Snm clan harbored them and gave them advice to break Somalia.?

[Salahudin]

Oba, agree with u bro that somalidu in ey meel ka wada timid, xamarna hooyadi tahay, lakin diriye iyo xaad inta ay cadaawada aborayan madaxweynihina ka dhigayan qabilist danahooda fulinaya xaaladu ma qumana bro...

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Haatu here it is

 

 

SUBJECT: ETHIOPIA MAKES CASE FOR SOMALILAND "SEMI-RECOGNITION"

Classified By: Ambassador Donald Yamamoto for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

 

¶1. © On the margins of a discussion with Acting AF Assistant Secretary Phil Carter On January 30, Ethiopia Prime Minister Meles made the case for "semi-recognition" of Somaliland as a critical step necessary to enhance the international community’s ability to support Somaliland on regional security/stability and in its own domestic efforts toward democratization. Meles argued that the international community’s status quo relationship with Somaliland is untenable and that Somaliland needs a way around the issue of legal recognition to allow the international community to "recognize some authority within Somaliland with which it can engage."

 

¶2. © Meles accepted Acting A/S Carter’s argument that Somaliland’s internal political dynamics over the past two years have not helped their case, and agreed that the region must get back on track and hold credible elections as planned this spring. Still Meles argued that Somaliland’s democratic process cannot be sustained without some kind of interim recognition which can allow for the provision of international assistance to bolster Somaliland’s own democratic process.

 

¶3. © Meles noted that he has already broached the notion of an interim- or semi-recognition, along the lines of what the Palestinian Authority enjoys, with Somaliland President Kahin Riyale, and that Riyale has become increasingly receptive to the strategy. Meles argued to Carter that the next steps must be for others in the international community to help convince the Somalilanders of such an approach. Then, Somaliland needs a "good sponsor" within the African community to advance the cause. Meles suggested that Djibouti would be the best choice, and acknowledged that Ethiopia would be the worst (as the move risked only fueling detractors’ arguments that Ethiopia is bent on breaking up Somalia). Once the strategy had support among African states, Meles argued that the onus would be on the U.S. and UK to make the Somaliland semi-recognition case to the Europeans and others in the international community.

 

 

http://danielberhane.com/2011/09/08/wikileaks-ethiopia-proposed-semi-recognition-for-somaliland/

 

 

Meles said the GoE is not enthusiastic about Kenya's Jubaland initiative, but is sharing intelligence with Kenya and hoping for success. In the event the initiative is not successful, the GoE has plans in place to limit the destabilizing impacts on Ethiopia. On climate change, Meles said the GoE fully supports the Copenhagen accord, but is disappointed with signs the U.S. may not support his proposed panel to monitor international financial contributions under the accord. Meles made no substantive comment on inquiries regarding the liberalization of banking and telecommunications in Ethiopia. End summary.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/246644

[D.O.C]

nuune;952741 wrote:

Oodka

, can you please remind the folks here that the source of this article is not to be trusted as it is from oppossition from the Ethiopian side.

 

Also,

Oodka

, can you also remind them the author of this article is called:

Somali-Ethio

as it is clear from the source.

 

 

I am actually concerned with the sources of materials that are lately being posted here on SOL.

 

Tune to the somali channel and Hctv, they both mentioned the same story in their last bulletins. Lets see what come up with?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

malistar2012;952744 wrote:

Xaaji

 

Stop the cover up , Hargesa admin owes its dependence on Ethiopian regime , which armed Snm clan harbored them and gave them advice to break Somalia.?

Not true SNM was formed in Saudi arabia with the ideology and interests of Somalilanders , and the Ethiopians never gave SNM free weapons they bought those weapons from them. Nor in the 80s did the SNM jointly attack Somalia with Ethiopia. But merely for a base and that was only between 1982 until 1988. From 1988 until 1991 SNM existed as independent entity with no support from Ethiopia or base.

Independence aspirations came from Somalilanders nothing to do with Ethiopians in 1961 Somalilanders had their double feelings about the union and staged a staged a coup d'etat. Ethiopians could care less if Somaliland becomes like Puntland or stays where it is. They are protecting their own interests. In an ideal world it would have been fantastic to have the greatest relations with Somalia. But this is Somalia. so it will be very difficult.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

I have seen it to on couple of websites to that the prime minister addressed the issue on their parliament but it means nothing. Because Somaliland does not need their support , Somaliland is not Somalia that needs Ethiopian troops to protect it

[malistar2012]

XAAJI

 

 

SNM jointly attack Somalia with Ethiopia. But merely for a base and that was only between 1982 until 1988

 

so about decade SNM was cooperating with enemy of Somalia as you admit , Terrorizing Somali cities and civilian are you proud ?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Saalax;952734 wrote:

What planet are you living on? The same Somalia that is trying to deny your existence and did not even

apologize for its war against Somaliland between 1981-1991? As the saying goes the enemy of my

enemy is my friend. Somaliland does not necessarily need the aid of other nations it can handle

its own, anything that will frighten Somalia from ever trying to make the same mistake thinking

it can attack Somaliland is welcome though.

Salax you are viewing this from one side try to do it from the other side. First of all Ethiopia and Somalia are no longer enemies Ethiopian troops are widely accepted in Somalia as allies.Second the EPRDF government is just pressing the buttons so that hassan gives into their demands regarding the jubbaland thing.

 

As for Somaliland and Somalia , the problem between Somalia and Somaliland is that one side still does not accept that the union between the 2 countries is over. But there are no other animosities. Having said that, Somalia as you view it does not exist. koonfurians are not united there are various entities and fiefdoms in Somalia. Koonfurians might call themselves unionists patriots but they are far from that. They cant unite Puntland cannot unite with galmudug and the 2 jubbaland admins cant agree on one admin. Your viewing Somalia as one county that no longer exists salaxow there is an SFG entity with limited control guarded by African union troops And there are other entities all pursuing their own separate foreign policy. But Somalia in the long term they will be Somalilands closest allies we just haven't reached that era yet.