Saalax Posted May 9, 2013 So you are USP? Can't tell much difference between them diaspora based bitter former USP supporters and the southerners.They all have a fear of Somaliland. Stating the facts isn't racism, Somalilanders and southerners are very different ethnic groups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted May 9, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;947933 wrote: The brits advised the Somalilanders not to unite even the NUF party of Micheal mariano suggested at that time to the Brits provincial administrative governor that Somaliland is still not ready for Independence. But Since SNL of Cigaal and Ali meygaag and Sayid Ahmed founder of hisbillah independence movement later merged with the SNL , were the majority of the Parliament they were pro independence and so pro union they led the Somaliland people into destruction also the elections were rigged , Micheal mariano and his crew won more than they were given. Independence and than being part and ruled by the chauvinist koonfurians means little girl. The South had little to do with the Somaliland independence movement , SYL was not even known in Somaliland when the brits gave hawd and reserve area to Haile selasie. Thats when the Somaliland elites started being worried and they only believed that they could get that land back if they united with the Koonfurians the dissatisfaction with the brits was enormous. But the Koonfurians had little to do with it. Still i dont see anything wrong with what the 2 men from borama said , independence means nothing if you are ruled by another country. I understand these men from borama - As there was no plans to grant early Independence to the territory, progress towards self government was slow untill the second half of the fifties. Around that time, however the pace was greatly accelerated chiefly to the growth of nationalist movement and the approaching date of independence in the Trustee ship - The Somali Republic: An Experiment in Legal Intergration pg 4 -In February 1960 a Legislative council was elected by Universal adult male suffrage. On April 6 this council unaninamously passed a resolution stating its desires to recieve independence before 1 july, so that the country could be united with Somalia when it became independent - Encyclopedia Americana pg 251 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coofle Posted May 9, 2013 Saalax;947962 wrote: So you are USP? Can't tell much difference between them diaspora based bitter former USP supporters and the southerners.They all have a fear of Somaliland. Stating the facts isn't racism, Somalilanders and southerners are very different ethnic groups. So Saalax, Do you imply Somaliland is currently lacking the fabric of whole USP? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 9, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;947961 wrote: I don't think he wants to be Somali , why cant he be a Kenyan, Kenya is more productive has much better economy than Somalia its a economic power house in the region. Why on earth would he want to be from Somalia makes no sense. He should be glad that he is from a prosperous proud African nation. Why would he want to be part of the most failed state in the world i believe brother haatu will embrace his Kenyannimo very soon and he should not look back. He should uphold the Somali identity as being part of Kenya. Good points. But Gariisa isn't really developed as compared to say the Luo headquarters of Kisumu, or coastal groups land of Mombasa or Kikuyu's Eldoret. He feels like a 4th rate citizen hence the attempt to escape from Kenya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted May 9, 2013 Mr Hashimi, I don't need to be a Somali, I'm one by default. And yes, I am a Kenyan citizen. I'm happy with what I am unlike you yaa Hashimi XX, make this the last marduuf sxb. You're not making much sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 9, 2013 If you're happy to be a Kenyan why are you butting yourself in issues between the northern elite league and the southern scrap metal looters union? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 9, 2013 Coofle;947967 wrote: So Saalax, Do you imply Somaliland is currently lacking the fabric of whole USP? In a good way. No one needs USP bitter minority supporters who would rather want to be ruled from Mogadishu than Hargeysa. Fortunately they mostly reside in the diaspora and have limited influence back home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted May 9, 2013 Saalax;947973 wrote: If you're happy to be a Kenyan why are you butting yourself in issues between the northern elite league and the southern scrap metal looters union? Because if someone doesn't keep an eye on you, you'll butcher each other till eternity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coofle Posted May 9, 2013 Saalax;947976 wrote: In a good way. No one needs USP bitter minority supporters who would rather want to be ruled from Mogadishu than Hargeysa. Fortunately they mostly reside in the diaspora and have limited influence back home. Loooolzz...No one is minority inader...Cid walibaa meesheeda way la tagi kartaa...meesha waxa yaalaa waa collective interest...its people like with such attitude destroying somaliland and plaingin hatred. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted May 9, 2013 Chimera;947965 wrote: - As there was no plans to grant early Independence to the territory, progress towards self government was slow untill the second half of the fifties. Around that time, however the pace was greatly accelerated chiefly to the growth of nationalist movement and the approaching date of independence in the Trustee ship - The Somali Republic: An Experiment in Legal Intergration pg 4 - In February 1960 a Legislative council was elected by Universal adult male suffrage. On April 6 this council unaninamously passed a resolution stating its desires to recieve independence before 1 july, so that the country could be united with Somalia when it became independent - Encyclopedia Americana pg 251 +1, and there are many more sources. Anyone familiar with the modern history of the Horn of Africa can tell you that British Somaliland's nationalist movement and independence was precipitated by nationalist activity in the South and its scheduled independence date of 1960, and that unification occurred with the mass enthusiasm of Somalis in both regions. If you believe in the post-1991 independence of Somaliland, that is your position, but trying to erase Somalia and Somaliland's history to fit your nationalism will not work. Just own it and focus on the present, that is developing a state in the context of state collapse and post-collapse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 9, 2013 After independence by lowell barrington, The Hizbullah and SNS were established 2 years after Sheikh bashiirs death in burco, it was actually the other way around the SNL and USP delegations were lobbying for Somali galbeed but it failed. If you look at Africa though the vast majority of African nations were given around the same time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 9, 2013 Haatu You should keep an eye on Gaarisa from being burned down by angry Kenyan soldiers instead . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted May 9, 2013 I do don't you worry about that Mr Arab Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 9, 2013 Saalax;947968 wrote: Good points. But Gariisa isn't really developed as compared to say the Luo headquarters of Kisumu, or coastal groups land of Mombasa or Kikuyu's Eldoret. He feels like a 4th rate citizen hence the attempt to escape from Kenya. They should work hard to make a different and develop the NFD region and become full fledged kenyans and dont look back to Somalia. Most of them are doing that though now and days and are showing no mercy to Somalia and are supporting the Kenyan troops in Somalia. Many are part of the kenyan army. The Kenyans should fight for equality justice although the Somalis are outnumbered by Kikuyu luos and Luhyas and other tribes. Atleast their country is making progress. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 9, 2013 Coofle;947979 wrote: Loooolzz...No one is minority inader...Cid walibaa meesheeda way la tagi kartaa...meesha waxa yaalaa waa collective interest...its people like with such attitude destroying somaliland and plaingin hatred. Truth has to be told. Those who hate the glorious SNM and its baby Somaliland will not be given a warm welcome until they repent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites