Alpha Blondy Posted May 6, 2013 hi y'all, i feel very NATIONALISTIC today. i've been researching the National Personifications of countries. Europa - represents fertility and beauty according to a european standards. Germania - Germania is usually shown as a robust woman with long, flowing, reddish-blonde hair and wearing armour. She often wields the "Reichsschwert" (imperial sword), and possesses a mediaeval-style shield that sometimes bears the image of a black eagle on a gold field. Additionally, she is sometimes shown as carrying or wearing the Imperial Crown of the Holy Roman Empire. John Bull - (Britain) - He is usually depicted as a stout, middle-aged, country dwelling, jolly, matter-of-fact man. Uncle Sam - (US) Uncle Sam is the elderly man with white hair and a goatee wearing a white top hat with white stars on a blue band, and red and white striped trousers. WHAT IS THE PERSONIFICATION OF SOMALIS? THE SHABAB? PIRATE BOY ABDI? ASHA GAAJO? THE GEEL JIRE? SOMALI MODELS? ------------ this is NOT a joke thread. i want to be the national personification of our people....i think i'll carry our name with pride and restore some sharaf back to the term 'Somali'..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted May 6, 2013 So what would u wear in the picture and how would your demeonor be? I'd prefer a stern and intimidating look, stern enough to at least scare Ethiopia and Kenya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted May 6, 2013 Inaar, good thread. But I think our national personification should not be personalised but rather a sympol of struggle, hope, peace, rebuilding and harmnoy. Something like this: Senegal's national personifaction has a six pack and check the females upper body. inaar, we can beat that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted May 6, 2013 Alpha - Are u serious, with all that cantarabaqash? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.O.C Posted May 6, 2013 Well done alphy..... i'd love to see what people to say about these. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorKenney Posted May 6, 2013 Oh, it's definitely Geel Jire. I would say he's the national personification of the Somali. The "Pirate Boy" or "Shabab" or starving woman in the picture is a temporary (and unfortunate) position Somalis are in, and is nothing we should be proud of at all. How can you consciously use negative symbols such as Shabab or Pirate-Boy to symbolize our country? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted May 6, 2013 Taleexi;946490 wrote: Alpha - Are u serious, with all that cantarabaqash? yeah i'm serious, inaar. i'm SICK and TIRED of these imagines ruining our collective will. we are a good, beautiful and hardworking people....but these terrible imagines ruin our overall imagine. do a google search on 'somali people'.....beside the cat, everything else is negative, ma garatey? :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.O.C Posted May 6, 2013 DoctorKenney;946495 wrote: Oh, it's definitely Geel Jire. I would say he's the national personification of the Somali. The "Pirate Boy" or "Shabab" or starving woman in the picture is a temporary (and unfortunate) position Somalis are in, and is nothing we should be proud of at all. How can you consciously use negative symbols such as Shabab or Pirate-Boy to symbolize our country? Somalia is hungry Somalia is alshabaab Somalia is pirates The whole world knows these... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorKenney Posted May 6, 2013 Alpha Blondy;946497 wrote: yeah i'm serious, inaar. i'm SICK and TIRED of these imagines ruining our collective will. we are a good, beautiful and hardworking people....but these terrible imagines ruin our overall imagine. do a google search on 'somali people'.....beside the cat, everything else is negative, ma garatey? :mad: We must do everything in our power, to gain the respect of the world again. We had this respect in the past and we have to regain it but sometimes I doubt if this can be done within the next 10 years. I'm impatient and to me, things are improving too slowly in Somalia. We need to speed it up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted May 6, 2013 DoctorKenney;946500 wrote: We must do everything in our power, to gain the respect of the world again. We had this respect in the past and we have to regain it but sometimes I doubt if this can be done within the next 10 years. I'm impatient and to me, things are improving too slowly in Somalia. We need to speed it up kulaaha ''We had this respect in the past'', besides possessing a strong (relative to our size and place in the world) and reckless (attacking its own people) military, when did we have 'respect'? the two greatest events in the history of somalis was 1972 - when the somali language was written and 1977 - when we almost beat Ethiopia in that now infamous war. perceptions are two fold. what you think of yourself and what others think of you....ee sida uula soco. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted May 6, 2013 Alpha Blondy;946497 wrote: yeah i'm serious, inaar. i'm SICK and TIRED of these imagines ruining our collective will. we are a good, beautiful and hardworking people....but these terrible imagines ruin our overall imagine. do a google search on 'somali people'.....beside the cat, everything else is negative, ma garatey? :mad: +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted May 6, 2013 I liked our monuments for Hawa Taako, Ahmed Gurey, Sayyid Mohamed and Daljirka Dahson (the unknown soldier monument), and I hope they are rebuilt along with additional historical figures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted May 6, 2013 You are right Alpha. Search Somalia and then click on the images. Google should put a warning sign there:( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted May 7, 2013 Safferz;946580 wrote: I liked our monuments for Hawa Taako, Ahmed Gurey, Sayyid Mohamed and Daljirka Dahson (the unknown soldier monument), and I hope they are rebuilt along with additional historical figures. There is nothing more I would like to see than our Somali heroes resurrected again. In fact I tried to hop on this project but was led to several dead ends. though this government must decide what image it wishes to form. there are also tricky dynamics to this like the ahmed gurey statue for instance. there is a lot of academic literature which suggeat gurey was not Somali and in fact his somali lineage specifically darooooooooooooood lineage has been pushed by the barre regime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted May 7, 2013 SomaliPhilosopher;946749 wrote: There is nothing more I would like to see than our Somali heroes resurrected again. In fact I tried to hop on this project but was led to several dead ends. though this government must decide what image it wishes to form. there are also tricky dynamics to this like the ahmed gurey statue for instance. there is a lot of academic literature which suggeat gurey was not Somali and in fact his somali lineage specifically darooooooooooooood lineage has been pushed by the barre regime. The clan stuff is dumb, but I do believe he was Somali. Ethiopian historiography (including the royal chronicles) describe him as a Somali with an army of Somali nomads, and I think Somali oral history confirms this. But I do know there are a few scholars who argue he was not (possibly Harla from Harar), but their only evidence is the ambiguity of the one account Futah Al-Habash, written by an Arab who was there at the time and noted that the army was Somali... so their logic is that if Gurey was was Somali, he would have mentioned that too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites