Mad_Mullah Posted May 4, 2013 and ally itself with Russia, China and Iran. Anyone agree? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 4, 2013 ^^ You cant do that you need to have a government first that is free Somalia cant even survive with out AU troops in its capital and you are talking about allying your self with the china and russia and iran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted May 4, 2013 how about being non aligned and looking out for ones interests regardless. think about that MM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted May 4, 2013 OK, how about Somaliland then XX? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 4, 2013 ^^ I dont mind if Somaliland deals with the energetic Chinese the Chinese are good partners in trade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorKenney Posted May 4, 2013 xabad;945988 wrote: how about being non aligned and looking out for ones interests regardless. think about that MM. I don't know what's with Somalis and this mentality that we need to align ourselves with other countries to "protect" us. It's ridiculous Somalia can take care of itself, is it too much to ask that we're a non-aligned neutral nation that trades with the rest of the world and generally remains indifferent to issues that don't affect us? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted May 4, 2013 meaning of hyperbole is lost on some here, how are Somalis slaves to the west, because they give grain to feed your starving masses or pay for solders that protect from your own terrorist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorKenney Posted May 4, 2013 Naxar Nugaaleed;946049 wrote: meaning of hyperbole is lost on some here, how are Somalis slaves to the west, because they give grain to feed your starving masses or pay for solders that protect from your own terrorist. I'm not denying that Somalia needs external help, but to think that we should strive to stay like this is ridiculous. At some point, the parent has to let go and let the child walk on his own. When Somalia does become a stable nation (inshallah), then we should pursue our own foreign-policy with our own interests in mind. It really isn't that hard to understand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted May 5, 2013 EVERY country in the world is aligned to super power. I don't think people here understand politics. Even strong countries like Turkey, Brazil etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorKenney Posted May 5, 2013 Mad_Mullah;946093 wrote: EVERY country in the world is aligned to super power. I don't think people here understand politics. Even strong countries like Turkey, Brazil etc. You know very well that is a lie, as there are plenty of nations that are nominally "allied" with superpowers, but have largely independent foreign policies. I would say the USA and Canada and Britain are allies, but to claim a nation such as Malaysia, Morocco, or Chile are "allies" with America, just because they have peaceful relations with them---is nonsense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted May 5, 2013 ^ LOL, Morocco isn't an ally, I'd say Morocco along with all the other Arab/African nations are slaves/stooges. America says jump, they say how high, the only exceptions could be: Gaddafi, Bashar Assad (because he's with Russia/China), Saddam Hussein etc. Countries that don't align themselves with no one will get swallowed up by one of the blocks, like Sudan, Omar al-Bashir used to be an enemy but the West pressured him so much that he gave in. Same thing would have happened with Iran but they have major back up from the Russians/Chinese. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites