International Conference on Somalia -- 7 May 2013

[Baashi]

The objective of the conference is said to be providing an international support to the government of Somalia. Somalia’s President Hassan co-chairs the conference with the UK Prime Minister David Cameron.

 

Hassan has to make the case for the need to support Somali Federal Government effort's to rebuilding the country. He’s expected to layout his Six Pillar Policy and to ask the donors to bankroll its implementation.

 

Interest groups are expected to condition their support and economic aid to government’s commitment to bring stability to Somalia and defeat AS. The expectation is that Hassan will outline the government’s plans to restore faith in governance, strengthen the security, consolidate the peace, resolve major outstanding political issues, and implement agreed upon social contract.

 

All Somali stakeholders including recovering areas in the North need to support government’s drive in securing the maximum amount of funds for the reconstruction of the country. They need to realize that funds received by the government on Somalis behalf will not be used by partisan party in exclusion of others or used against them or against their interest. There are strings attached to the aid package.

 

There are signs that political disagreements between some of the stakeholders are deepening. Some of the dispute stems from mistrust among clans. Others are constitutional in nature. Much of the disagreements are fuelled by the absence of genuine reconciliation. Still folks who are in position of influence are urged to take the interest of the country to heart and support the state always and oppose the government when they must.

 

This is when our leaders wherever they are should support the country. It just so happened that President Hassan represents the COUNTRY this time around.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Looking forward

[Che -Guevara]

News story Somalia Conference - Aims

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/somalia-conference-aims

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

^^ Interesting points there, any news from faroole will he attend or not,, Hassan left for Britain today,

[Illyria]

Baashi,

The current crop of Somali politicians and leaders are neither intelligent nor public serving technocrats. They are neither honest nor capable. They are however egotistical prima donnas deeply influenced by Somalia's recent history and of which views and politics are shaped firstly by clan interest instead of the national and public interest.

 

Add-on:

And to understand the malaise in Somali politics, such observe this forum and the nonsense that passes as facts and hard data - no critical analysis or fact-checking or patience for the all facts to emerge, but furious rush to judgement and no subscription to the age old doctrine of awarding the "benefit of the doubt" in situations or cases - 'cos people in this forum will eventually graduate and morph into politicians serving the ailing Somalia.

[Miyir]

Illyria;944990 wrote:

Baashi,

The current crop of Somali politicians and leaders are neither intelligent nor public serving technocrats. They are neither honest nor capable. They are however egotistical prima donnas deeply influenced by Somalia's recent history and of which views and politics are shaped firstly by clan interest instead of the national and public interest.

very true.

[Baashi]

Illyria;944990 wrote:

Baashi,

The current crop of Somali politicians and leaders are neither intelligent nor public serving technocrats. They are neither honest nor capable. They are however egotistical prima donnas deeply influenced by Somalia's recent history and of which views and politics are shaped firstly by clan interest instead of the national and public interest.

 

Add-on:

And to understand the malaise in Somali politics, such observe this forum and the nonsense that passes as facts and hard data - no critical analysis or fact-checking or patience for the all facts to emerge, but furious rush to judgement and no subscription to the age old doctrine of awarding the "benefit of the doubt" in situations or cases - 'cos people in this forum will eventually graduate and morph into politicians serving the ailing Somalia.

Waa runtaa. Our friend Libaax would take an exception to your characterization of the forum as being a nursery for furure crop of afar jeeble Careful Illyria

[Illyria]

Oh no. Tho' I have not come across Mr. Libaax yet, but I'll take your word for it and never mention it again.

[Baashi]

Illyria, awoowe no worries Libaax is the gatekeeper in this joint. He and the good moderators are the babysitters of the forum. Once awhile we got teenagers with toddler attitude, drama queens and all sorts of characters slip through the bug screen. If that happens seniors of the site count on Libaax and our moderators to drop down the hammer

[Baashi]

So what's your take on this conference? Timely?

[xiinfaniin]

The conference will go on regardless of Somalia's internal political squabbles. But left unresolved, the emerging political crisis over federalism could set Somalia back. As the case has always been, Mogadishu is not ready to govern...and those who lost everything are not fools to accept the leadership of a man who seems to be most effective in stoking civil war flames .

[Illyria]

Baashi

Good to know there is a gatekeeper.

It is a goodwill initiative on the part of Britain which is trying to hang on to its imperial influence over its commenwealth/colonies and its intent is to remain relevant in the evolving geopolitics of the new world where resources and economic dominance are the driving factors. Africa is the target. China is in the driving seat. Europe and US are lagging behind. Consider the following. Africa has 60% of the world's untapped resources. China is scaling up its interest in Africa by a rate of - forgot what the last rate was - somewhere in the region of 2,000% increase. Read Sino-Africa relationship academic papers, which illustrate the economic race 'ween China, the new (future) econoimic empire, and Europe, the old old empire still wanting to remain relevant seeking remedies for its economic woes, and the US, current empire seeking to hold on. So, Africa is the economic battle ground. so to circle back to your question, Britain is in competition with Turkey with the long reach being raw resources of the dark continent, and Somalia serves as the broken glass, and whomever fixes it not only takes the mantle, but will use it as a goodwill gesture for other resource-rich, but less developed, African nations.

 

That is my reading.

Now, you will notice I am trying to avoid, and for a good reason, the inter-Somali politics and squablling over the presumed ownership and member attendance of the conference, and am focusing more on its geopolitical relevance.

 

Let me add tho' I'd have liked it however if President Hassan came to the meeting with the leaders of the future federal states like Somaliland, Puntland, Galmudug, Jubaland etc on his side, and they, the leaders saw this as an golden opportunity to present a united front to the world and ask the world to help them help themselves in reconstructing the country. It is however highly unlikely judging from what was seen last couple of weeks.

 

Add-on:

Timely?

No 'cos politically Somali leaders are not ready for serious talk and unless that has taken place locally reconstruction could not tempted therefore any attempt in that direction NOW is futile.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Let me add tho' I'd have liked it however if President Hassan came to the meeting with the leaders of the future federal states like Somaliland, Puntland, Galmudug, Jubaland etc on his side, and they, the leaders saw this as an golden opportunity to present a united front to the world and ask the world to help them help themselves in reconstructing the country. It is however highly unlikely judging from what was seen last couple of weeks.

Can you leave Somaliland out of it thank you.

 

Somaliland would never work with the pirates against President hassan , dont even dream about it.

[Illyria]

And by the way if you even get the chance, consider the relavance of these lines.

 

Sino-African relations

 

ONCE UPON A TIME, a large, very poor but resource-rich country decided to focus on development. “We need to modernize our infrastructure, build railways, import new technologies,” the government said. Soon, they had a visit from a large, wealthy Asian country. This Asian country offered them a bargain: We will give you a line of credit worth billions of dollars, and you can import our technologies. Our companies can build your ports, develop your power plants, and help you modernize your mines. You can repay us with your oil, your minerals, and access to your land. Many in the poor country were intensely suspicious of this wealthy Asian power, but they agreed to the bargain, and the work began. One of these countries—the large poor country wealthy in oil—was China, whereas Japan was the wealthy Asian benefactor. 1 When Deng Xiaoping first proposed opening up Chinese resources to Japanese exploitation in the mid-1970s, the country was just emerging from the Cultural Revolution, and his idea was intensely controversial. But Deng prevailed, and China went on to prosper to an extent that would have been unimaginable at the time.

 

Today, this story is still told around the world, but China is now the Asian country offering bargains to poor but resource-rich nations. Over the past several decades China has executed a remarkably clever role reversal, in the process transforming itself from borrower to global lender extraordinaire. The most interesting aspect of this drive, however, is not just that China was successful in pursuing its goals, but also how successfully it continues to pursue its resource acquisition campaign.

 

Over the past several decades China has executed a remarkably clever role reversal, in the process transforming itself from borrower to global lender extraordinaire. The most interesting aspect of this drive, however, is not just that China was successful in pursuing its goals, but also how successfully it continues to pursue its resource acquisition campaign.

 

Simply stated, China has developed into the global price setter par excellence for numerous commodities through its specific relationships with resource-rich countries.

 

Chapter 6,

Winner Take All: China's Race for Resources and What It Means for the World

Moyo, Dambisa (2012-06-05).

[Illyria]

XX,

I promised myself not to engage the ever so emotive, lacking rationality secessionists, so I am breaking that promise this time, and for a reason. so do not make me regret in responding to you.

Here is my response.

I will leave the triangle if you leave and stop claiming Sool, Sanaag & Cayn. is that a deal?

Xaaji Xunjuf;945289 wrote:

Can you leave Somaliland out of it thank you.