Tillamook Posted April 30, 2013 NGONGE;944590 wrote: All these are farfetched suppositions that may or may not prove true. However, the one thing I’m certain of now is that Hassan Sheikh’s room for manoeuvre on the Jubbaland issue was much more powerful than we were led to believe. Ngonge, the fact that your suppositions, as you say, are "farfetched" makes them untrue, and as such Much Ado About Nothing:D-- Marka ku noqo, the Imam deserves better from you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 30, 2013 NGONGE;944690 wrote: ^^ I buy the first but not the second. There is more to the constitution argument than simple timing. ^^Actually with all the disagreement between Puntland and SFG, the constitution is the easiest to resolve. On this Faroole will get his way, and Hassan Sheekh will not lose much other than the little political embarrassment it causes him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted April 30, 2013 NGONGE;944621 wrote: The Imam IS important, saaxib. He's been silent for a while and finally decided to start shooting his mouth. There must be a very good reason to get him to act in such a way. He isn't being listened to dee. Hence the 'I can make things difficult' hold to ransom statements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 30, 2013 ^If he is not important why would what he says matter to any one ? Why would the president visit Puntland and bother to even reach agreement with Faroole? Some times one needs to see things as they are , not as he wishes them to be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted April 30, 2013 ^Please differentiate between important and important 'enough'. At the moment, Faroole's concerns are not important 'enough' to be addressed by the government. Hence the statements from Garowe. Go ahead and spin the above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 30, 2013 ^^How do you know what is 'important enough' for the government, NORF? Are you the government to make such a clarified distinction ? you did not answer the questions posted regarding the importance of Puntland or lack thereof . Try again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted April 30, 2013 Its quite simple saxib. Meeting was held and the Faroole feels he wasn't listened to hence the statement. Shall I walk you through how he deemed that to mean he isn't important? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 30, 2013 ^^Yes please walk us through how Faroole felt he was not listened to. Because that is not what would any impartial who followed that event would conclude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted April 30, 2013 You'll ask me to tell you how I think the sky is blue next Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 30, 2013 ^^No. I observed an unusual slip here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 30, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;944681 wrote: What about Khaatumo state are they not allowed to sleep in the big tent Yaa Xiin? Khatumo has undermined the 'pirates' chance for the leadership of Somalia while Jubbaland increases the share of the pirates in a Federal Somalia. Hence why Puntlanders are so eager to establish another pirate branch in Jubbaland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 30, 2013 xiinfaniin;944684 wrote: ^^Khatumo is indeed in the big tent as we speak Ask yourself: why Khatumo is in support of Jubbaland Xaaji habaar, you are sluggish man Khatumo is in support of Jubbaland now doubt but Puntland is not in support of Khatumo why is that. Puntland fights for the federal rights of jubbaland but not for khatumos self rule why is that what makes Khatumo different from Jubbaland? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 30, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;944822 wrote: Khatumo is in support of Jubbaland now doubt but Puntland is not in support of Khatumo why is that. Puntland fights for the federal rights of jubbaland but not for khatumos self rule why is that what makes Khatumo different than Jubbaland? Khatumo folks show solidarity with tolka. But Puntland thinks Khatumo undermines pirates chances for Somalias leadership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 30, 2013 Carafaat;944819 wrote: Khatumo has undermined the 'pirates' chance for the leadership of Somalia while Jubbaland increases the share of the pirates in a Federal Somalia. Hence why Puntlanders are so eager to establish another pirate branch in Jubbaland. Fair point carafaat but the Pirates are on a mission its a clanish objective for them to secure the Pirate interests in the lower Jubba. I agree with NGOGNE assessment. That the Pirates do not believe in big tents and small tents as Xiin wants us to believe. If that was the case they would have supported Khatumo , and not that long ago they called the Big foot family people who mastered the Somali language, but not real Somalis. So we know where they stand when it concerns the larger tent association. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted May 1, 2013 Oh! You meant to enquire about the high poker game being played there. The title of the post is misleading. You come across as someone who knows that there is something that is decaying or there is something that is morally, socially or politically corrupt or there is something that unpleasant in that recovering area of Somalia I was expecting to read an analysis or commentary explaining the rotten anture of Puntland! Alas our secessionist friend has limitations! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites