MVP Posted April 22, 2013 Northern Forum for Democracy is a human right and democracy forum based at Garissa and has been active in agitating for the rights of Kenyans since the inception of multi-party democracy(NORTHERN FORUM FOR DEMOCRACY) Any effort to mediate between individuals, groups and or nations is really an appreciable feat that we would like to thank President Geele for and especially if such intentions are for public good. We know the misunderstanding between the Federal go vernment of Somalia with Kenya and Ethiopia is solely based on poor and wrong approach that, the new Somali President adopted in running both his foreign and domestic issues. Talking loosely about these nations anywhere and with anyone. President Hassan sheikh to the shock of many who hitherto thought will perform better than Sheikh Shariff who lacked institutional management skills has proven to have nursed age old bitterness of wanting to divide and suppress Somalis, who in his logic were viewed as obstacles to his communities’ ill-gotten wellbeing. A close observation of his cabinet formation is a clear indicator of how Hassan Sheikh Mohamud planned to annihilate Somalis and with a strong focus on the larger ‘******’ clan of the Somali. He made appointment without consulting even the’******’ dominated federal state of Punt land let alone discussing the government with the very leadership of the ‘******’ traditional council of elders or even any of their sub-units. To add an insult to injury, instead of supporting the Jubaland initiative of federal state formation, Hassan sheikh put all his energy and that of his psychophants to sabotage and critique the tireless, energy and resource consuming efforts of the Jubalanders to an extent that, he used state resources and arms to create disharmony amongst the southern ‘******’. Unfortunately what has broken the camel’s back was his position that both Kenya and Ethiopia were fronting of the ‘******’ interest in Somalia and viewed them as invaders rather than supporting the making of Somalia peaceful; an obligation that both Kenya and Ethiopia thought was morally theirs given their sharing of a border and similar communities with Somalia. It’s known to everyone that, both Kenya and Ethiopia sacrificed men, money and machines in the war against terror in Somalia and President Hassan instead of appreciating such investments never acknowledged their presence and is always in full praise of Uganda and Djabouti as those Africans who came to Somalia’s rescue. Every Tom, Dick and Harry knows very well that, the two neighbour’s i.e Kenya and Ethiopia used resources that were not given by the UN and up to-date continue to fight the enemy without any appreciation by the President and his community the ‘Hawiye’. We are aware that, Hassan Sheikh Mohamud and his handlers in Mogadishu are tired of waging a verbal war against this nations and have embarked on sabotaged attacks by partnering with the terror group whose nerve centre is Mogadishu and we dare challenge any one over that as dangerous arms used by the group are known to be dispatched from Villa Somalia as AMISOM and other actors came to know recently. The demi-god that Ismail Omar Geelle wants to play in the ******- ****** animosity is getting very apparent with the talks from his military spokeman a Mr. Haamud over the Ethiopian withdrawal from some Bay and Bakool region and his parliamentary speaker’s comment on the Jubaland formation. If what Ismail and Hassan are craving for is another round of clan based war in Somalia, this time round they will be in for a surprise as no one is ready for what is their habit of war, looting and raping. Just imagine what good can come from a community who make one like Hassan Haad, a clan leader; a man known to have been an estate barber in the 90’s and is now feeding on looted and grabbed properties of respectful person like Muse Borgor. As for Kenya and Ethiopia, both Ismail Omar and Hassan Sheikh should know that, these are countries populated by the ‘******’ and in fact the best of citizens in those country and without whom major national decisions and especially those that concern the Somali cannot be made will definitely not sing to your tunes and if you think meeting our Prime Minister Haile and President Uhuru wa Kenyatta in a room will enable Hassan Sheikh humiliate the ‘******’ then you are misled as the ball for decision making will bounce back to the ‘Owners’ and If you will appreciate some free advice, NFD would have told you to talk to President Abdirahman ‘Faroole’ as the most senior ‘******’ leader in the region, so that you could sort out your quagmire on leadership. You should be cognizant of the fact that, both Ethiopia and Kenya have an able intelligence network in Somalia and they know very well the manipulation and suppression of the ****** government on the Biyamaal and the larger *** in Shab elles, the takeover of the Jarer-weyne land and properties both in Benadir and Shabelles and annihilation of the peace loving Barrawa and other Benadiris and of course the divide and rule strategy against the Digil and Mirifle and the misuse of the Marehaan of Mudug; If Ismail Omar Gelle and Hassan Sheekh Mahamuud feel Somalia can be ruled by subjugating the ‘******’, then we are sorry you will be in for a surprise as the ‘******’ nation is what we call in Kenya ‘ Unbwogable’ or rather unbeatable in all aspects. The meeting you may have with Haile and Uhuru if ever it will happen will not yield as the ball stops with their citizens who understand you better!!! Our advice to the ‘Iririya’ warlords in Dajbouti and Mogadishu; is come back to your senses and follow the path that will make Somalia peaceful and that is support federalism and respect all Somalis integrity. Khalif Abdi Farah alias ‘Firimbi’ Executive Director, IjaraNews Garissa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 22, 2013 There is no disagreement between the three countries Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malistar2012 Posted April 22, 2013 As for Kenya and Ethiopia, both Ismail Omar and Hassan Sheikh should know that, these are countries populated by the ‘******’ and in fact the best of citizens in those country and without whom major national decisions and especially those that concern the Somali cannot be made will definitely not sing to your tunes and if you think meeting our Prime Minister Haile and President Uhuru wa Kenyatta in a room will enable Hassan Sheikh humiliate the ‘******’ then you are misled as the ball for decision making will bounce back to the ‘Owners’ and If you will appreciate some free advice, NFD would have told you to talk to President Abdirahman ‘Faroole’ as the most senior ‘******’ leader in the region, so that you could sort out your quagmire on leadership. My Dear friend , Somalia Sovereignty is Not for Discussion or Compromise. Prime Minister Haile and President Uhuru wa Kenyatta Maybe your leaders but they are not going to dictate Somalia , Kenya and Ethopia are to respect Somali Federal Government Sovereignty and dignity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 22, 2013 So much clan talk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malistar2012 Posted April 22, 2013 Kenyan second class citizens kikuyu shoe shiners are Trying to Invade Somali Politics ........ They are trying to convince us that Prime Minister Haile and President Uhuru wa Kenyatta are good for Somali stability , and both Ismail Omar and Hassan Sheikh are working on to destabilize Somalia give me break . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malistar2012 Posted April 22, 2013 Somali Federal Government should not takes these foks serious when comes to Somali affairs , They reduced to submissions and shoe shinning butlers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 23, 2013 A close observation of his cabinet formation is a clear indicator of how Hassan Sheikh Mohamud planned to annihilate Somalis and with a strong focus on the larger ‘******’ clan of the Somali. He made appointment without consulting even the’******’ dominated federal state of Punt land let alone discussing the government with the very leadership of the ‘******’ traditional council of elders or even any of their sub-units. these guys know very little about Somalias politics. This kind of hate speech is to be blamed on the fadhikudirir politics coming from certain corners of the political spectrum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MVP Posted April 23, 2013 malistar2012;941277 wrote: Kenyan second class citizens kikuyu shoe shiners are Trying to Invade Somali Politics ........ They are trying to convince us that Prime Minister Haile and President Uhuru wa Kenyatta are good for Somali stability , and both Ismail Omar and Hassan Sheikh are working on to destabilize Somalia give me break . a subhuman HAG organization who known to be savages when it comes somalia politics can not be expected to get somalia out of quagmire when they are the ones who fuucked up somalia at first place, for generations you use to ruled and governed by us, so please for ones do us a favor and try to use that little brain of yours before yo badmouth some one who yo survival depend on, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MVP Posted April 23, 2013 malistar2012;941285 wrote: Somali Federal Government should not takes these foks serious when comes to Somali affairs , They reduced to submissions and shoe shinning butlers while yo poeple in mugadisho raped the country, Ethiopia and kenya were the ones who wellcomed with open hands the innocent poeple whom yo people looted their property, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 23, 2013 Oodweyne;941833 wrote: In this article you will find all the evidence you need to know the sheer bogus notion in which "Somalinimo" was from the get go of our recorded history. In this snippet of evidence you have a group of Somalis claiming that the leaders of Kenya and Ethiopia are far more in tune of what is good for Somalia than her sitting president. And the evidence they brought forward for this assertion is that the president may wish to replace these countries forces with some others. And to boot their evidence is that Kenya and Ethiopia agree with the formation of Jubbaland and since president of Somalia disagree with that then he must defer to these countries since they care far more for the well being of Somalia than he does it. Hence in this little letter you will get all you need to know about the miserable charade in which this Somali nationhood was all along. What is most striking is that one day they are the spokesman and campaigners for Kenyatta, another day they support the Ethiopian goverment/Abdi Ileey and their policies towards Somalia, another day waa ku mucaarid Ethiopia iyo kenya. And when it suits them they are so called refugees looking for a place to call home(Azania) brining the same goverments they were opposing to Somalia. They are truly Somalias Fifth column. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daqane Posted April 23, 2013 Oodweyne;941833 wrote: In this article you will find all the evidence you need to know the sheer bogus notion in which "Somalinimo" was from the get go of our recorded history. In this snippet of evidence you have a group of Somalis claiming that the leaders of Kenya and Ethiopia are far more in tune of what is good for Somalia than her sitting president. And the evidence they brought forward for this assertion is that the president may wish to replace these countries forces with some others. And to boot their evidence is that Kenya and Ethiopia agree with the formation of Jubbaland and since president of Somalia disagree with that then he must defer to these countries since they care far more for the well being of Somalia than he does it. Hence in this little letter you will get all you need to know about the miserable charade in which this Somali nationhood was all along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 23, 2013 Northern Forum for Democracy is a human right and democracy forum based at Garissa Oodweyne is bit hasty with his indictment , this is a Kenyan forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted April 23, 2013 Oodka, This is the usual double-speak we've grown so used to... On one hand, Xiin and co. will throw up the 'Big Tent' theory in the naked power grab for the Jubbas, but when component parts of the Big Tent are publicly found to be engaging in nefarious activities, then a quick distancing from the caught perpetrators is enacted: "They hold foreign passports and are broadcasting from a foreign country. They're not one of us!". Well, you can't have it both ways. Kenyans ku lahaa... Classic Well, it didn't matter that they were Kenyans or Ethiopians by passport when they were crossing the border on their way to the Jubbas, so why should it matter now?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 23, 2013 I stopped reasoning with Mintid . Oodweyne, we all have our tea party varieties whether they are based in Kenya, Ethiopia, Europe, NA or Somalia. Your protest is therefore unwarranted. The D block is politically resurgent so brace yourself for polarizing forums in the genre of SAHAL and like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted April 23, 2013 ^^Just a second ago, you were distancing them as outsiders... Kenyans... nothing to do with us. When that attempt is rejected and shown for the ruse it is, it's back to accepting them as part of the 'resurgent block'..... Slippery, slippery...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites