Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 22, 2013 ^^ Haday kala tagaan yaa u ga badhi xun its not good such a small nation oo sii kala firxada wa awood wiiqantay uun, waxay u bahanyihin solutions ay ku bad badan dhibaatada haysata Somalia waxa weye ki shalay wax laayey aya amaanta victim ah ki maanta victimka ah aya beritoole agressorki noqonaya. wa cycle aan dhamanayn. Is aaminadi la so celiya hada ta la rabo wa in horta kan daahir calasow websitkisa la xidha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted April 22, 2013 Dahir Calasow seems so violated, he insults him over and over, calls him a fat alcoholic thief who plundered charity money and spend it to get drunk :eek: And what's this qabiil card he's waving around as if it exists in political or social terms :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted April 22, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;941325 wrote: ^^ Haday kala tagaan yaa u ga badhi xun its not good such a small nation oo sii kala firxada wa awood wiiqantay uun, waxay u bahanyihin solutions ay ku bad badan dhibaatada haysata Somalia waxa weye ki shalay wax laayey aya amaanta victim ah ki maanta victimka ah aya beritoole agressorki noqonaya. wa cycle aan dhamanayn. Is aaminadi la so celiya hada ta la rabo wa in horta kan daahir calasow websitkisa la xidha. Xaaji your clan wey gadoodsan yihiin and want nothing to do with the rest of the Somalis. The Xamar clan doesn't want to share a country and have a deep sense of entitlement. Tolka wants federalism as a safeguard and to get back its lawful wealth but Xaad's clan doesn't want any of that. The only solution is in la kala taga. You waqooyians can have your S/land minus SSC, tolka aayaheeda ha ka tashato and Xamar can do whatever they want on their own. Ma been baa la isku sheegi? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted April 22, 2013 Haatu;941335 wrote: Xaaji your clan wey gadoodsan yihiin and want nothing to do with the rest of the Somalis. The Xamar clan doesn't want to share a country and have a deep sense of entitlement . Tolka wants federalism as a safeguard and to get back its lawful wealth but Xaad's clan doesn't want any of that. The only solution is in la kala taga. You waqooyians can have your S/land minus SSC, tolka aayaheeda ha ka tashato and Xamar can do whatever they want on their own. Ma been baa la isku sheegi? can you elaborate on the bold part? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 22, 2013 Haatu;941335 wrote: Xaaji your clan wey gadoodsan yihiin and want nothing to do with the rest of the Somalis. The Xamar clan doesn't want to share a country and have a deep sense of entitlement. Tolka wants federalism as a safeguard and to get back its lawful wealth but Xaad's clan doesn't want any of that. The only solution is in la kala taga. You waqooyians can have your S/land minus SSC, tolka aayaheeda ha ka tashato and Xamar can do whatever they want on their own. Ma been baa la isku sheegi? Nope wrong the Somalilanders want everything to do with the rest of Somalis they want fantastic relations with reer nfd reer kilinka shanaad and reer djibouti they only have some problems with the koonfurians. The rest of the Somalis are fine, about ssc these regions are very multi tribal you cannot just divide and judge those region to one clan. Certainly SL has legal and historic rights to it and ofcourse a large base there whether than they to join Puntland i doubt it. But for the Mogadishaawis i doubt they would support that galkacyo be in 2 different republics and their smaller kin to be dominated by another clan in jubbaland region who than become their own republic. Than the rest particularly haatu and zack and the pirates it will be very hard to unite as tribe under one country since the HAG and bay and bakool communities live in between those tribes. Haatu this is the map tribal map of the former Somali republic now would you divide it because many regions are mixed just look at the south. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A_Khadar Posted April 22, 2013 ^^ Waxaan maqli jiray af nooli hadal ma daayo. Certainly SL has legal and historic rights to it Who is this SL? Your clan has legal and histroic rights to where, ssc? Who gave these rights? The queen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 22, 2013 ^^ Somaliland the country which gained independence on the eve of 26 June 1960. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted April 22, 2013 Xaaji, don't start believing the lies you've been feeding your kids for 20 yrs now. The SSC regions (minus the bits you lot live in) belong to the SSC people and you have no right over it. Oba, I'm talking about the 'Xamar Unuka leh' sort of entitlement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 22, 2013 What if their former rebel leaders says he is part of SL remember SL is not a clan but several clans who share the same history and culture and political culture whom are united in their quest for statehood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted April 22, 2013 Those clans only share one thing, subjugation by the British. Besides, a few mercenaries do not represent the wishes of the majority (and truth be told, the majority abhors sharing anything with your clan); hence why there's no hope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 22, 2013 By the way you didn't tell us how you going to solve the south lets say you want to disintegrate Somalia how are you supposed to do that. Puntland up to galkacyo is oke but when you reach galkacyo its going to be difficult. Who gets what where will the border be between the new countries. And in the far south will there be several republics or just 3 or 2. The Somaliland case is a minor issue , when compared if you want to create new countries in the south. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted April 22, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;941369 wrote: What if their former rebel leaders says he is part of SL remember SL is not a clan but several clans who share the same history and culture and political culture whom are united in their quest for statehood. Yea, yea, sida kuwaan hoos ku xusan soo ma'aha: Jaamac Kaluun Buubaa Jen. Qaalib Cabdalle Boos Maareeye Awmaar Ilkaxanaf Xuseen Carab Fowsiyo ... Kuwaas soo aamin marka hore intaa mid calooshiis u shaqeysto ah keenin meeshaan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 22, 2013 Haatu;941371 wrote: Those clans only share one thing, subjugation by the British. Besides, a few mercenaries do not represent the wishes of the majority (and truth be told, the majority abhors sharing anything with your clan); hence why there's no hope. I doubt it the elites of laascaanood switched sides and felt very dissatisfied with Puntland because they believed Puntland was supporting one clan of the garaad clan against the other. So they joined Somaliland , Puntland was removed from laascaanood. its not a few mercenaries, how can a few mercenaries hold people close 300.000 hostage. Surely if they were opposed to it they would have fought it. The issue is not sharing political seats the clans who live there together are brothers and sisters and you cant tell the difference between them the camels of laascanood graze as far as burco and those in burco go as far as boocame and taleex. If they really shared nothing with the rest of Somalilanders they would have stayed and supported political H.artism but that failed. Before colonialism arrived in SL these clans used to raid each other as groups not as clans so the clans from caynabo and buhoodle were allies. Against the clans of Sanaag. One would say they would have formed a block with their kin in Puntland based on ancestry but why didnt that work out. Now they have khatumo which is based in the far eastern part of sool. What if a sub clan of Khatumo says i want my own state what than? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 22, 2013 Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;941374 wrote: Yea, yea, sida kuwaan hoos ku xusan soo ma'aha: Jaamac Kaluun Buubaa Jen. Qaalib Cabdalle Boos Maareeye Awmaar Ilkaxanaf Xuseen Carab Fowsiyo ... Kuwaas soo aamin marka hore intaa mid calooshiis u shaqeysto ah keenin meeshaan. Kuwaasi maxay ahayeen, maxayse qabtaan maxayse siyasadoodu tahay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites