Rgearding the looted houses- the hour is closing in and Dr Culusow needs make a final say about it!

[Carafaat]

Oodweyne;940811 wrote:

Back in early 1970s Idi Amin confiscated the properties and the firm assets of the Ugandan's Asians; and to boot he even kick them out of the country to UK since most of them had a overseas British passport. And luckily for them the Tory government of the day in London under the them Prime Minister Ted Heath decided to open the door for them and they arrived by the plane load in places like Birmingham and various towns in UK's Midlands region.

 

However when the current Museveni came to power in Uganda in 1986 he decided to court and appeal to the then Ugandan's Asians living in here in UK by coming to UK and telling them that their properties will be returned to them. And to that effect he established a judiciary committee independent of the the rest of the judiciary system, so they will look into exclusively into these looted properties.

 

Hence I would advise the current federal government to establish a "blue-ribbon standing alone judicial committee" that acts as a court. And it should be headed by respected group of imminent Somali people, so that their task will be to take this issue out of the daily slow-going legal system of the country.

 

And in the bench of this established committee/court will be open for Somalis who has a lost property to reclaim. So that way, they will go there in order for that committee/court to firstly ascertain the "veracity" of the case; and if the case is solid then they will recommend to the normal executive channel of the nation such as the police and to the local council that said person must be given his/her property back.

 

Thirdly this committee/court will have a wide ranging legal authority that resemble a "court of session" sort of court who expedite and deliberate all the cases that come before its docket without getting entangled in other end of the legal system such as the court of appeal or even the supreme court. This means any decision this "special court" makes is "un-appealable".

 

And the reason I say that, is that it's imperative that it's decision should not be hold up by endless and bogus appeal to the supreme court or even to the lower court of appeal by any "scamming looter" who thinks since he had the property he stole two decades ago, in all of these years, then naturally the new Somalia should "ratify" his right to own that property, when it comes to going forward.

 

All in all, I can't think of no quicker route to resolve this deeply felt issue than this way of establishing this "supra-judicial committee or specific court" which in turn act as a court of final appeal for "looted properties". As well as an active "verdict-giver" in terms of resolving the property disputes in the light of the looted properties of the Somalia during the last two decades.

Oodweyne, I dont think the Indians looted a Socialist State in merely two decades. They were mostly entrepreneurs who bought up land and properties throughout the century they were present in Kampala.

[Johnny B]

Ehem ehem, There seems to be incohessive theme of sentiments flying around this issue, first off Mr Khadafi has presented more of a hatred than justice inquiry, and we've but with contemp to deal with his coupling of an Elder of a certain Clan and this non clanish issue of looted properties, this glaring insult to some clan's elders is tatemount to more of hate sentiment than justice inquirey, but it won't be met on that level.

[NGONGE]

The Somali army is giving up its life for peace, why can't Khadafi and co give up their houses in return?

[Johnny B]

NGONGE;941112 wrote:

The Somali army is giving up its life for peace, why can't Khadafi and co give up their houses in return?

 

Ideally yes they should , and since they owned 80% of the properties.

[NGONGE]

^^ War have a heart. Give up a house for Somalia!

[NGONGE]

^^ I gave up my blue flag in 2007, saaxib. I'd give up a house for Somaliland though.

[NGONGE]

^^ You claim to be a Somali. I'm asking you to give up a house to gain a country. Surely that's a bargain.

 

As for intellectual dishonesty, I dare you to say that in Somali!

[oba hiloowlow]

Johnny B;941118 wrote:

Ideally yes they should , and since they

owned 80% of the properties

.

[NGONGE]

^^ Say it in Somali first and then we can see if the point stands.

[NGONGE]

^^ No switching. I hoped you would get the point much earleir than this but, I guess, you're not the man I thought you were.

[NGONGE]

^^ Not all no. But I had great hopes for you.

[Khadafi]

Johnny B;941088 wrote:

Ehem ehem, There seems to be incohessive theme of sentiments flying around this issue, first off Mr Khadafi has presented more of a hatred than justice inquiry, and we've but with contemp to deal with his coupling of an Elder of a certain Clan and this non clanish issue of looted properties, this glaring insult to some clan's elders is tatemount to more of hate sentiment than justice inquirey, but it won't be met on that level.

Johnny B, kamrat... The porpuse of the thread was not awake clan hostilities even though some could say that comical picturs of Diriye and Goebells is sentiments of clan hatred. The simple facts are just as stated before:

 

Atleast 20%-40% of all houses or property in Mogadishu is today former private owned property, in other words looted property. I am not saying that some clans benfited from war, how could they? 20 years of chaos and destruction doesnt change the facts that thet whole somali population suffered. Even the looter has in some way been negativly affected by the chaos.

 

But whats more important is that looters or those xaaran-kunaxayaal do not hide behind respected "Clan elders" in their thirst for decent living from a rotten establishment . The situation in Somalia is changing and I truly belive the winds of change are going in he right direction. But the legal questions that is concious among every adult somali must be answerd. Oday Diiriye completly fits this equation. He is the direct personfication of those mentioend. The robbers can not hide behind a Clan elder. Adeer Xassan Culusow should be firm on this question.

 

Ngonge, minkiaaga u dhow naaso-hablood agtiisa adeer Diiriye adi ma ku aamine?:eek: