1988 war documentary

[oba hiloowlow]

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[Carafaat]

Thanks Oba. Havent seen this documentary before. Cant belief some ppl still deny those events and the darkest period of the Somali history.

Illaahay ha cafiyo.

[Mintid Farayar]

Oba,

I see you're updating yourself on the painful history of the past! Maybe, now you can understand why some cry falsely about some 'manufactured' genocide committed by SL against the Khatumo folks - in order to cover up an actual documented genocide that always eventually leads to their backyards. This was the reason for the crocodile tears shed for Gen. Ali Samater - a fear of where this precedent could lead since it proved quite simple to win the case(against Samater) in a fair, balanced, and advanced legal system.

 

You can imagine the pressure that was brought to bear on the poor, bewildered PM Saacid to immediately and officially ask for immunity for Samater.

[Classified]

SNM rebels were fighting against Siad's government prior to 1988. The rebels started fighting with Mengistu's support in early 1980-1981. From 1981-1987, Siad Barre's government didn't bombard or kill civilians in Hargeisa or Burco. Only after SNM rebels attacked and captured parts of Hargeisa and Burco (with urban warfare) did the Government take all measure possible to liberate Hargeisa and Burco from SNM rebels whom were backed, equipped and financed by Ethiopia's Mengistu regime.

 

How is that a War crime? Any government in the World would retake it's cities if Rebels that are transparently supported by your enemy attacks your cities and kills your citizens.

[oba hiloowlow]

U wlc arafaat.

 

Mintid it was painful to watch that especially the old lady talking.. I use to defend ali samatar due to hailing from a opressed minority clan however it doesn't matter what clan he is he would probably face the same thing if he was hailing from a majority clan, marka saacid made a huge misstake, inuu ka laabta weeyan go'aankii immunity-ga

[Mintid Farayar]

Classified;940483 wrote:

SNM rebels were fighting against Siad's government prior to 1988. The rebels started fighting with Mengistu's support in early 1980-1981. From 1981-1987, Siad Barre's government didn't bombard or kill civilians in Hargeisa or Burco. Only after SNM rebels attacked and captured parts of Hargeisa and Burco (with urban warfare) did the Government take all measure possible to liberate Hargeisa and Burco from SNM rebels whom were backed, equipped and financed by Ethiopia's Mengistu regime.

 

How is that a War crime? Any government in the World would retake it's cities if Rebels that are transparently supported by your enemy attacks your cities and kills your citizens.

 

^^^^ Exhibit A

 

 

Waa wakhtigii maryaha la dhigi jirey!

[Wadani]

Classified;940483 wrote:

SNM rebels were fighting against Siad's government prior to 1988. The rebels started fighting with Mengistu's support in early 1980-1981. From 1981-1987, Siad Barre's government didn't bombard or kill civilians in Hargeisa or Burco. Only after SNM rebels attacked and captured parts of Hargeisa and Burco (with urban warfare) did the Government take all measure possible to liberate Hargeisa and Burco from SNM rebels whom were backed, equipped and financed by Ethiopia's Mengistu regime.

 

How is that a War crime? Any government in the World would retake it's cities if Rebels that are transparently supported by your enemy attacks your cities and kills your citizens.

It was a war crime because civilians were being targeted and killed deliberately. If only the SNM was being targeted and some civilians happened to die as collateral it would be a different story.

[Wadani]

Classified;940483 wrote:

SNM rebels were fighting against Siad's government prior to 1988. The rebels started fighting with Mengistu's support in early 1980-1981. From 1981-1987, Siad Barre's government didn't bombard or kill civilians in Hargeisa or Burco. Only after SNM rebels attacked and captured parts of Hargeisa and Burco (with urban warfare) did the Government take all measure possible to liberate Hargeisa and Burco from SNM rebels whom were backed, equipped and financed by Ethiopia's Mengistu regime.

 

How is that a War crime? Any government in the World would retake it's cities if Rebels that are transparently supported by your enemy attacks your cities and kills your citizens.

Also ur denial of the atrocities in the north is just an example of y we can't share a country with ur ilk.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Classified the kacaan govt was at war with a tribe, not with the rebels they hunted them down as far as xamar how do you justify the jazeera killings in 1989 were these people snm to.

[Classified]

AUN to all the innocent civilians that died in 1988, 1991 and up to recently.

[Classified]

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[oba hiloowlow]

Classified;940491 wrote:

 

AUN to all the innocent civilians that died in 1988, 1991 and up to recently.

aamiin

[Mintid Farayar]

LOL @ Xaaji X and Wadani! You guys are trying to reason/argue with a collective guilty conscience that needs deniability for various reasons

 

Here comes the various anecdotes: "I knew of XYZ of the SNM clan who participated in Siyaad's military, etc."

[Wadani]

Classified;940491 wrote:

But, the SNM infiltrated the masses. The situation turned into a house-to-house warfare, much similar to what's going on in Syria. The SNM rebels mostly wore civilians cloths. I'm not here to defend anyone, but just being fair here. All Somali clans were part of Somalia's Siad Barre government.

 

AUN to all the innocent civilians that died in 1988, 1991 and up to recently.

lol, illaahow nin aan waxba ogayn ha cadaabin. Bro, some people here were actually there and have lost loved ones. Like I said, some civilian deaths would be a reasonable and expected outcome of a war where the rebels can melt into the civilian population, but this isn't what happened in the north. We were being targeted systematically by the state for being from the I-clan. My aunt witnessed with her own eyes bus loads of teenage girls and boys being lined up with hands tied behind their backs and being shot execution style. She got away by begging for her life and paying one of the san-gadhuudhi officers a few shillings she had. As she was walking away she saw another load of youth being brought in to be killed.

 

When the woman, children and the old and infirm were making their arduous trek to kilinka for safety was there SNM among them? So y were we being bombed form the air by the somali air force and hired rodhesian mercenaries?

[Classified]

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