Carafaat Posted April 20, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;940442 wrote: Faroole is not going , north galkacyo clan want cabdi cawar but faroole deported cabdi cawar Bosasso brings in the cash. Bari folk dont want another Mugdian warior whoes focus is Xamar, they want someone who can focus on Puntland only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waranle_Warrior Posted April 20, 2013 ^Actually (Farole's sub sub sub clan) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted April 23, 2013 Puntland: A Joint Letter from UDAD and Midnimo political Associations in Puntland Published on April 23rd, 2013 Garowe, April 21, 2013 To: Puntland Transitional Electoral Commission Cc: Interpeace Organization Cc: UK Ambassador to Somalia Cc: EU Special Envoy to Somalia Cc: United States Special Representative for Somalia Subject: Final Compromise on our Participation of Upcoming Local Election The execution of free and fair elections to choose our political leaders is a dream that haunted every puntlander in the last 14 years. When the current government announced the start of the democratization process in the last quarter of 2012, a number of political associations that are committed to produce change have risen up. For the first time in Puntland, political associations have begun to woo supporters from community masses through presentation of their political programs to the public in order to win their approval for political leadership. However, with the insistence of the government to run local elections with no ID and voter registration requirements and the removal of the provisions related from the local electoral law, the already declining trust between UDAD and Midnimo on one hand and PTEC and government on the other hand has widened. Since then, the existing notion of having corrupted and fraud elections has been multiplied successively. In addition to that, no single item from our list of concerns raised in our previous discussions has been positively and sufficiently responded by the government; the establishment of constitutional court, the necessity of non- partisanship electoral commission, security of the polling stations, voting of non Puntlanders, fixing of regional borders etc. Nonetheless, corollary to our consecutive discussions with DSC delegates last week, we have been convinced to drop ID and voter registration conditions due to time and financial limitations and we accepted it temporarily in substitute of the list of safeguards against election fraud formulated by PTEC. However, in exchange of the above, we believe that confidence building for all stakeholders is a cornerstone and very crucial to the electoral process and therefore the following three points are a prerequisite for our full participation to upcoming local elections by UDAD and Midnimo political associations: http://puntlandnews24.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/A-Joint-Letter-from-UDAD-and-Midnimo-3.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted April 23, 2013 Somalia;940287 wrote: This one, my God. Voting is not even POSSIBLE without registration. And it says it will be held in June, while your secessionist colleague posts an old link which says it is postponed indefinitely. So explain to us, why would they hold an election without voters? You are either in denial or having trouble comprehending the concept "Pirate Elections". Check the bold open letter above by the two parties boycotting the polls, they will be no voter registration nor IDs required in these special elections. I can't explain how that is possible, we're all in the same boat - no pun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 23, 2013 Ayoub is interested in Puntland politics eh? And he thinks it is about trinity clans Elections will be held , and it shall have its pumps as any democratic exercise would. But there is no political crisis that warrants a discussion. June 30th will be when the first election will be held. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted April 23, 2013 ^ These are not ordinary elections yaa Xiin. Would you like to read your - unrealiable - tea leaves and say which of the Unholy Trinity will take full advantage of the lax conditions set by the Imam? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 23, 2013 ^^Adeer there is nothing I can do to alleviate your cuqdad against those you call 'unholy trinity', but xiin is unaware of any such political groupings. Besides, if you think my response or prediction is unreliable why bother ask me , Ayoub? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted April 23, 2013 ^ Entertainment of course. C'on now be a good sport. You were brilliant with your PM prediction not to mention the SL participation in the London conference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 23, 2013 ^^The London Conference are not held yet, so be smart & stop bragging about the future . But if you were aiming at entertainment on my expense, then one concludes you have not been smart about it. Transparency, they say, is always good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted April 23, 2013 ^ It was not only entertainment, it's always good to hear what is being discussed on other dinning tables and the likes of you and Mooge have delivered the goods on more than one occasion. What party are you backing anyway, I guess you are not an UDAD supporter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 23, 2013 ^^I support Ahmed Madoobe party in Kismayo Waryee ragga sida loola hadlo waad ilowdee, bal carafaat ku bar baro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted April 23, 2013 ^ I see you've all angles covered. Trinity in PL, -Block caravan in Jubba and selling the merits of Wanlaweynism to SL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 23, 2013 xiinfaniin;942045 wrote: ^^Adeer there is nothing I can do to alleviate your cuqdad against those you call 'unholy trinity', but xiin is unaware of any such political groupings. Besides, if you think my response or prediction is unreliable why bother ask me , Ayoub? Xiin, cuqdad ayuu meel kasta ku arkaa, qof kastana ku tilmaamiyaa. I guess one does that when out of arguments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted April 23, 2013 ^ He accused me of having "cuqdad" against The Unholy Trinity and then denied knowing what that trinity was. Only Xiin can pull a manoeuvre like that. I'd rather hear his take on UDAD in stead of Cuqdads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted April 23, 2013 Gentlemen, Ka qalleeya Xiin, maanta.... He's had an emotional day (for some reason) and seemed unable to maintain his usual distortions of arguments. Give him a short holiday from the 'usual disrobing' he's subjected to here in this Forum. In other words, be charitable... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites