His version of events is accepted by no historian

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

"As he has in other conversations, "Faroole" remained

skeptical of the TFG's commitment to federalism. He fingered

TFG Deputy Prime Minister Sharif Hassan as an obstacle to

Puntland - southern Somalia relations, and cited the process

used to expand the TFG parliament as an example. "Faroole,"

who views Somali politics through a **** clan lens,

insisted that the Alliance for the Re-liberation of Somalia

(ARS) should have consulted Puntland during the Djibouti

process about the ***** representatives it added to the

expanded parliament. (Note: It is difficult to overstate the

degree to which "Faroole" interprets events in the light of

clan politics. The Puntland President devoted almost an hour

of his meeting with Somalia Unit Poloff to a "history" of the

*****/***** settlement of Mogadishu. His version of events

is accepted by no historian or analyst of Somalia.)"

Wikileaks [Luulyo, 2009]

[xabad]

so why are giving us 2009 news ? explain

[Mintid Farayar]

^^ You're missing the larger point here (which MMA is referring to).

 

This cable allows us to know what U.S. officials meeting with Faroole actually think of Faroole and his world viewpoint, referring to it as purely clannish in every sense of the word.

 

I've beaten this same exact point to death in previous years - that both the U.K. and the U.S. have a somewhat negative viewpoint of current Puntland leadership, yet the threat of piracy makes it impossible to ignore. Hence, most of these two powers efforts in the last few years have concentrated on skipping dealings with the Puntland administration and dealing directly with Puntland civil society.

[Gheelle.T]

Awoowe, both Faroole and Shareef were on power for about 6 months when this cable came out. The IC and particularly the US were trying to forge some sort of working relationship between the two admins, PL(farole) and the TFG(shareef) and the rest is just politicking. The whole of Somali politics is so clannish. So what is there to be surprised? As for Farole's dealings with the western powers, I think that's out in the open for all to see. Tell us something new.

[Mintid Farayar]

Oodka,

 

Good points. However, SL is happy with Faroole. He's been a responsible partner who quietly disentangled Puntland from the Sool issue (regardless of what our resident PLers here on SOL claim). Faroole possesses more realistic ambitions than his previous predecessors in Puntland. He realizes the only area he can effectively rule is the traditional clan-land of his subclan(referred to some as 'pirates') and has consolidated his ambitions away from the problematic area of Eastern SL. The security cooperation between SL and PL is reasonably effective and cordial due to this 'understanding'.

 

Another point - what happened to Gen. Ilkajiir, the savior of Sanaag (as many had coronated him during his entry to Puntland politics). It seems the lion has turned into a lamb. I suspect Faroole reined in the 'General' in order to keep the SL relationship on a smooth trajectory.

 

So on that note, please send a memo to Ngonge to leave my main man, Faroole, alone and desist from writing witty, mockumentaries about the man

[xiinfaniin]

Faroole is a stakeholder. Whether his version of history is accepted is a moot point. What is not in doubt is that his version of federalism has been accepted by the very powers whom wikileaks cites as a source for this report. Today it is Faroole who is having the last lough, and the rest including our separatist brothers here are nothing but mere reactionaries to his initiatives.

 

Give credit where credit is due ---the man not only has a prominent finger in Somali politics but his dhabayaco foot is also there. And like Gheelle pointed out a 2009 report is hardly a sign to gouge the relationship between Faroole and the IC. It is funny Mintid is still shouting from Hargeysa roof top to protest Faroole's role in Somali politics.

 

ps. It is interesting that Mintid and Oodweyne and thier children have given up on Jubbaland initiative, and now accept it as a reality on the ground