List of Federal States of Post-Conflict Somalia

[Baashi]

Driven by clannish interest and the need to level the playing field so that what transpired during military junta cannot be repeated, Somali politics has entered more divisive clan-politiking phase. If adopted in its current form, federalism will institutionalize clan interests as legitimate constituent interest group.

 

The only limiting factor to the clan federation political paradigm is geography and it appears committee that was tasked to draft the constitution slipped in a clause that will minimize this inconvenient pump on the road to normalized Tribalism.

 

Since all stakeholders have accepted Federalism let’s count the ways each stakeholder would like to handle it if he gets the upper hand in the wrestle of Somali clan dinosaurs.

 

Hassan Sheekh and constituents he represents would like to see Somalia as three major federal member states with minor corrective action done to smooth the geographical edges of the provisional administrative regions.

 

South Somalia (former administrative regions governed from the center. Regions whose governors are appointed by the President)

Puntland

Somaliland

 

Faroole and his allies in the south have another vision in mind.

 

Puntland

Jubaland

Part of Somaliland (Kahtumo is in PL)

Bay/Bakool/Sh.Hoose

Central Somalia

 

***Mogadishu becomes nuetral capital of FS or else the status of the capital will be settled through the constitution by finding willing clan to sacrifice their flagship city in return of the coveted capital with all its economic and political status conferred to their territory.

 

Siilaanyo and his advisers have a different ball game to play. They want confederacy between former British and Italian

Somaliands.

Somaliland

Somali Proper

[Carafaat]

Baashi, slight correction. Somaliland wants recongnition of its independence. Its Hassan Sheick who wants to bring all of Southern Somalia under his goverment including Puntland(or what is left of it, minus SSC, Makhir, Mudug) and then a form a Federal Union with Somaliland. Faroole knows that, see his nervous reaction when Dr.Gas was touring the region, hence why he announced elections in the hope of legitimizing his fiefdom, hence why Faroole is lately very carefull of attacking the Federal goverment and hence why Puntland desperately supports Jubbaland.

[STOIC]

Baashi, as good contributor to the site I doubt you have added anything substance here.Are you asking people for their opinions on the obvious stands?

[Saalax]

Carafaat - Co-Sign.

 

 

Another correction how is Khaatumo in Puntland? Taleex village which is the headquarters of Khaatumo and is

very close to the Puntland border isn't even part of Puntland.

[xiinfaniin]

Some how this carafaat script kills every potential post

 

It is a curse

[STOIC]

^ Xiinow, there was nothing to discuss here..our Baashi just pointed out the obvious..there is still hope for another round of Federalism...haha

[Carafaat]

Xiinfaniin, saxiib, I just love Puntland Politics.

[Illyria]

Baashi,

The trick is finding a polical solution, and a common ground which satisfies all stakeholders. It would not matter what configuration or shape it takes. Any thing short of that is 'dhicis'.

 

I could see 5 federal member states:

Somaliland - W. Galbeed, Togdheer (excluding Buuhoodle), and Sanaag (excluding Makhir)

Puntland - Bari, Nugaal and Mudug (excluding south Mudug)

Central State - Sh. Dhexe, Hiiraan, and the old South Mudug (Galgaduud and south Mudug)

Jubaland - J. Hoose, Dhexe, and Gedo

Southwest - Bay, Bakool, and Sh. Hoose.

 

Let Khatumites, Awdalites, and Makhirites decide for themsleves without coercion.

 

Xamar would serve as a federal territory.

 

But neither Somaliland not HAG would be happy with that set up.

 

Puntland or Jubaland would not be happy with South-North confederacy.

 

So we are on hold.

[Carafaat]

Baashi and Ilyira,

 

First of all, a good thread. I think this its an excellent idea to philosophize or atleast theorize about possible political solutions for Somalia. As Ilyria mentioned, there seems to be diffrent options on the table. But none of the options seems to find common ground among most of the stakeholders. Does this mean, there is no possible solution where most Somalis could be satisfied about? No, I dont think so. But it certainly means that so far the Somali political actors have narrowly focused on the number of states and the relation between central authority and regional States.

 

While if you analyse the root causes of the Somali conflict there are several diffrent factors that played a role and are not adressed by Federalism. So we need to look broader for diffrent political solution in terms of decentralisation, power allocation and governance configurations. For example:

 

1. The Somali capital or even multiple capitols.

There are many countries who multiple capitals or where the largest city isnt the seat of the goverment. I have once proposed to make Garowe, Somalias official capital while Muqdisho remains seat of the goverment or vica versa.

 

http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/66168-List-of-countries-with-Multiple-Capitals

 

 

2. Traditional Parliament(clan based Guurti)

The current Goverment and Parliament are responsible for administrative issues and services. But I think many of the issues in Somalia are historical, cultural, traditional and thus clan related issues. In which any Goverment would be considered biased and can only be resolved by the clans themselves(the traditional Sultans, Aaqils, Kings, Garaads, etc). This is in line with our traditional history. So next to the Federal House(Parliament and Senate) that make legislation, there should be Clan Based Parliament(Guurti) dealing with clan related issues. Such a political platform would be inclusive and could achieve the clan balance or allocation (4.5 formula) that would dissapear once you have an elected Parliament and a House of Elders appointed by the regions.

 

This was the outcome of an earlier social debate on the real roots of the Somali conflict. http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/23889-Social-debate-The-real-roots-of-the-Somali-conflict

 

I think both options could be achieved without much change to the Constitution and current Goverment set-up.

[Carafaat]

P.S. If Belgium can have 7 Parliaments and 7 Goverments while they are only 2 diffrent communities(French/Dutch). Then for sure Somalis could have more Parliaments, capitals and goverments. We just need to be a little creative.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governments_in_Belgium