UN: Puntland More Populous Than Somaliland---Somaliland Snaps @ UN

[ElPunto]

^I think he may have received prelim numbers given his position as a minister but clearly the UN is not finished its work. Not sure if the gallery has access to those numbers though.

 

He would have been better served if he took his concerns privately to the UN. Seems so many Somali ministers need Government 101 and Media Relations 101 when they're appointed to the post.

[Duufaan]

I recently came back from northern Somalia. There are still large Oromo communities in Somaliland, particularly berbera and hargeysa. All service jobs are done by Oromo and Ethiopian. 80% of Somaliland population is concentrated Hargeysa, Burco and Berbera and there are very few nomads in Somaliland compared to rest of Somalia.

To be fair, larger portion of displaced southern Somalis live puntland than Somaliland, especially more so in Boosaaso.

 

Puntland (gaalkacayo-Boosaaso) = Somaliland (Hargeysa-Ceerigaabo) if you count only locals. Somaliland population is not growing faster as rest of country because two reasons. Decades of urbanization unlike any place else and fewer nomads

[Illyria]

I wonder where the the minister got the idea that in Somaliland the task-force team counted houses whereas in Puntland they counted families. Here is the methodologies used by the task-foce teams in both areas.

 

Methodology

The survey will use a typical census-questionnaire that covers gender, age, marital status and other basic socio-demographic and economic characteristics of the population: maternal mortality, births and deaths, migration, literacy, labor force participation/ occupation; access to water, energy, and housing characteristics. Separate questionnaires are also prepared for the nomadic population that seeks to capture the unique variables experienced by nomadic populations between rainy and dry seasons.

 

And if the teams used Satellite and GIS expertice assisted by relevant technologies like Earth-Google imagery in rural areas, why did the minister invoke Google as a supporting evidence to dispute the results? Just asking.

 

Satellite Imagery and GIS support

For smaller towns, especially in Puntland and Somaliland, Earth-Google imagery was extensively used to prepare town section photographs that were highly useful to avoid the need for less precise and tedious sketch mapping.

[Saalax]

From Google Earth itself. Bosaso is not even half the size of Hargeysa, so the survey indeed does

have many errors and it is absurd as the minister pointed out.

 

Both at same zoom.

 

Hargeysa

 

 

 

 

 

Bosaso

[Carafaat]

Saalax, dont take this to serieuz. Some pirates have destorted and falsified numbers from a UN Project survey. Nothing more.

[xiinfaniin]

LOL@Salax

 

ku noqo

[Saalax]

Carafaat;937245 wrote:

Saalax, dont take this to serieuz. Some pirates have destorted and falsified numbers from a UN

Project survey. Nothing more.

 

I know. I am just showing how absurd it is, so why are the pirates trying hard to slander the

minister for pointing out the obvious and sending the poor attempt to distort things to bubbles.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Perhaps the allegation of pirates crunching UN numbers is not credible and the minister is fighting with hard facts

 

Facts, mr Saalax, will come out and when they do they will show that not only your geography was wrong but the perception you created for your 3 mother clan will crumble

[Saalax]

We have no problem with facts but absurd claims full of errors won't be accepted. Southerners

(including Puntland) are known to try to temper with the facts like the infamous Wal-aweyn district

fiasco. We are step ahead this time and know the desert state is trying make up imaginary

ghost numbers.

[Che -Guevara]

The UN is not southern:D

[Miyir]

Che -Guevara;937277 wrote:

The UN is not southern:D

LOL :cool:

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

What is this nonsense , xiin ma wax kalo u meesha so galiyu wayey

 

War waxani wa sheekoyinki xawalayda

 

By the way all the oromos are deported

[Garaad Bari]

The survey covers the entire Somalia based on the boundaries of the 18 regions as they existed before the war in 1991 and all IDP settlements currently hosting families. How did they accept this since they were claimining independent country? or all they thinking was the $6.9 USD per survey

[Carafaat]

Xaaji Xunjuf;937285 wrote:

What is this nonsense , xiin ma wax kalo u meesha so galiyu wayey

 

War waxani wa sheekoyinki xawalayda

 

By the way all the oromos are deported

Bosasso ayee wali ka buuxaan.

[Tillamook]

What else is new besides the obvious laangaabnimo of those habro in the north...:D