Turkey to host three-way talks with presidents of Somalia, Somaliland

[xiinfaniin]

Turkey to host three-way talks with presidents of Somalia, Somaliland

 

SİNEM CENGİZ, ANKARA

 

Turkey will hold a meeting with leaders of Somalia and Somalia’s autonomous Somaliland region in İstanbul on April 13, according to Turkish diplomatic sources.

 

A senior Turkish diplomat who spoke to Today’s Zaman on the condition of anonymity stated that after the tripartite meeting, which will also be attended by Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud and Somaliland President Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo may also come together in a tête-à-tête meeting, adding that the two leaders may also hold talks with Turkish officials in Ankara after their meeting in İstanbul.

“Turkey will hold a tripartite meeting with the two leaders in order to facilitate the dialogue between them. This is the first meeting of its kind between the two leaders and Turkey is very pleased that the meeting is taking place in İstanbul. Turkey is ready to do its part for the maintenance of the dialogue between the two leaders. We are facilitating rather than mediating with this meeting,” said the diplomat.

 

Somaliland unilaterally declared its independence as a de facto sovereign state in 1991 after a coalition of clan-based armed opposition groups ousted the nation’s long-standing military government. The area is internationally recognized as an autonomous region of Somalia.

 

According to the diplomat, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan may also come together with the two leaders if his schedule permits.

 

During his first diplomatic visit to Turkey in late December after taking office, Mohamud expressed his gratitude to the Turkish government and the nation for their support and aid and for instilling hope in Somalis. Mohamud, Somalia’s president since last September, was invited to Turkey by his counterpart, President Abdullah Gül.

 

Silanyo visited Turkey in mid-March to have talks with Turkish officials, including Davutoğlu, who pledged to increase aid efforts to Somaliland. During his visit, Silanyo was also scheduled to meet with Erdoğan; however, the meeting had to be canceled due to Erdoğan’s poor health. The diplomat stated that five ministers from the Somaliland side also attended the Davutoğlu-Silanyo meeting, which was closed to the press.

 

Following the meeting between Davutoğlu and Silanyo, the delegations came together over a working meal. According to the diplomat, the sides discussed the projects of the Turkish International Cooperation and Development Agency (TİKA) and other Turkish nongovernmental organizations in Somaliland. “The Turkish foreign minister pledged to increase Turkey’s aid efforts in all regions of Somalia, including Somaliland. He also underlined that Somaliland is of great importance to Turkey due to historical ties that have existed since the Ottoman era,” said the diplomat.

 

According to the diplomat, Davutoğlu also pledged to continue his support for the reconciliation, stability, prosperity and development of Somalia. During the meeting, he also emphasized Turkey’s commitment to the integrity of Somalia, said the source.

 

Aid from Turkey in the aftermath of the 2011 famine in Somalia, the opening of the Turkish Embassy in Mogadishu in November 2011 and a visit by Erdoğan in August 2011 to the country provided momentum for the relationship between Turkey and Somalia.

 

Source:Today’s Zaman

[xiinfaniin]

I am reporting facts. You can tell us what you wish about third party mediation, testing the waters and whatnot.

[Che -Guevara]

Oodweyne..haven't they 'tested' water already?

[Tallaabo]

Let us see what the Koonfurians come up with.

[xiinfaniin]

Oodweyne,

 

Turkey's task is very simple one; give our separatists leaders a way out of the current political stagnation they find themselves in and give international cover to the decision the separatist leader will be making regarding integration with the federal government. That, in a nutshell, is the gist of these talks at Stanbul.

 

If you truly think Turkey will bless the dismemberment of poor Somalia, you are more delusional than NGONGE

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

I am going to love this show tallaabo do not expect to much from the Mogadishu government

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

This is the first meeting of its kind between the two leaders and Turkey is very pleased that the meeting is taking place in İstanbul. Turkey is ready to do its part for the maintenance of the dialogue between the two leaders.

We are facilitating rather than mediating with this meeting,

” said the diplomat.

See they are not mediating but merely facilitating the conference, Poor countries do get dissolved you know officially not that there is a UNION intact at the moment Between Somaliland and Somalia's AU guarded government

[Tallaabo]

xiinfaniin;936515 wrote:

Oodweyne,

 

Turkey's task is very simple one; give our separatists leaders a way out of the current political stagnation they find themselves in and give international cover to the decision the separatist leader will be making regarding integration with the federal government. That, in a nutshell, is the gist of these talks at Stanbul.

 

If you truly think Turkey will bless the dismemberment of poor Somalia, you are more delusional than NGONGE

Xiinoow nobody expects Turkey to bless the former republic's dismemberment. It is already dismembered. The reason Silaanyo is in Turkey is to negotiate with the Koonfurian delegation and not to ask Turkey for anything. You can guess, fantasize, or daydream about whatever you what but the truth is Somaliland is negotiating a divorce deal with Mogadishu and the Turks are there only to facilitate those negotiations.

[xiinfaniin]

Oodweyne,

 

What you call crystal ball is a water tight analysis grounded on current geopolitical reality. Only if you were manly enough to admit recent political trajectories in the country is nothing but a manifestation of the said geopolitical reality. Somaliland is a peaceful region within the legal jurisdiction of Federal Somalia. The London and Stanbul diplomatic dances are nothing but a face saving formalities to complete the inevitable integration of the country. When I say integration, you should read it in political terms.

[xiinfaniin]

Tallaabo;936521 wrote:

Xiinoow nobody expects Turkey to bless the former republic's dismemberment. It is already dismembered. The reason Silaanyo is in Turkey is to negotiate with the Koonfurian delegation and not to ask Turkey for anything. You can guess, fantasize, or daydream about whatever you what but the truth is Somaliland is negotiating a divorce deal with Mogadishu and the Turks are there only to facilitate those negotiations.

Must we always repeat the holes of your argument awoowe? Somaliland as it is represented today is a political facade whose back is quite broken. There are vast regions that Somaliland claims but could not set a foot. The entertainment has ended and this time , those who are in the know, and in the highest echelons of Hargeysa power pyramid fully know what the deal is. It is time to be honest with your self for your own sake.

 

a peaceful integration is still an integration ---and that is what will happen.

[Tallaabo]

xiinfaniin;936522 wrote:

Oodweyne,

 

What you call crystal ball is a water tight analysis grounded on current geopolitical reality. Only if you were manly enough to admit recent political trajectories in the country is nothing but a manifestation of the said geopolitical reality. Somaliland is a peaceful region within the legal jurisdiction of Federal Somalia. The London and Stanbul diplomatic dances are nothing but a face saving formalities to complete the inevitable integration of the country. When I say integration, you should read it in political terms.

Somaliland isn't Somalia which is a UN trustee. The IC knows it is the voter who runs Somaliland and not the African mercenaries therefore no one will ever tell Siilaanyo to unite with Koonfuria because everyone knows Siilaanyo can not do that.

[xiinfaniin]

^^You are showing a deep ignorance of how the world works. Unless you are pulling alshabaab on us and do not recognize the world structure

 

A simple question shall clarify this for you: Does the ICC has a leverage on Somaliland?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Tallaabo ha isku daalin walaalkeen Xiin iyo kubadisa dhalalaysa eeh u gacanta ku wareejiyo.

 

Somaliland and Somalia are clarirying their future relations in a foreign country its being facilitated

by a foreign country as agreed on. The Garowe clan enclave was forced to sit behind their president Mr Hassan sheikh Maxamuud they have no input in this and thats whats burning them. The upcoming talks are just to pave a way for the real settlement talks between the 2 countries.

[Tallaabo]

xiinfaniin;936527 wrote:

^^You are showing a deep ignorance of how the world works. Unless you are pulling alshabaab on us and do not recognize the world structure

 

A simple question shall clarify this for you:

Does the ICC has a leverage on Somaliland

?

This is an irrelevant question and depends on whether the former republic signed to be part of the ICC. But the truth is no one will tell Siilaanyo to join Koonfuria because Siilaanyo does not have that power the and IC knows it.

[Tallaabo]

Xaaji Xunjuf;936528 wrote:

Tallaabo ha isku daalin walaalkeen Xiin iyo kubadisa dhalalaysa eeh u gacanta ku wareejiyo.

 

Somaliland and Somalia are clarirying their future relations in a foreign country its being facilitated

by a foreign country as agreed on. The Garowe clan enclave was forced to sit behind their president Mr Hassan sheikh Maxamuud they have no input in this and thats whats burning them. The upcoming talks are just to pave a way for the real settlement talks between the 2 countries.

Waa runtaa Xaaji