Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 28, 2013 Safferz;931433 wrote: I'm also not sure why people seem to think the geographies and settlement patterns we see today are fixed, unchanging realities, and the way things have always been. What you think is a Somali city today may not have been one 200 years ago. Our people (with a few exceptions) are traditionally nomadic, and we've taken over lands too, including Oromo lands. What do you think Galkacyo means? Hadana galkacyo ma siin lahayd. its strange people oo arintan wax yar ka so qaaday thank god Somalida shisheeye ag degan arintaas waka fejignaan yihin Sida reer NFD reer Djibouti iyo reer Somali galbeed. Reer Somalia waxa ba aad mooda inay yidhaheen wixi la qadanyo hala qaato waxba naga ma galin qaar kale babanu ugu darayna loooool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted March 28, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;931437 wrote: Hadana galkacyo ma siin lahayd. its strange people oo arintan wax yar ka so qaaday thank god Somalida shisheeye ag degan arintaas waka fejignaan yihin Sida reer NFD reer Djibouti iyo reer Somali galbeed. Reer Somalia waxa ba aad mooda inay yidhaheen wixi la qadanyo hala qaato waxba naga ma galin qaar kale babanu ugu darayna loooool Your reading comprehension needs work, Xaaji -- I was making a point that the boundaries you and several others seem to have in your minds, that Somalis and Oromos live in two different and clearly demarcated spaces, is false. And as Samafal pointed out, there's a lot of cultural exchange and overlap between our two ethnic groups as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 28, 2013 Somalis share nothing with those oromos not a language not traditions not a country not the same history nothing. Oromos and the Zulus are the Same for Somalis. The Zulus are 100 times braver than the so called oromo ethnic group even the oromo ethnic group is not a real ethnic group. These people are ethiopians they are not our problem and certainly they are not our brothers an Ugandan Muslim is closer to a Somali than an oromo , an ugandan is not after the Somali territories.But the oromos want to steal Somali territories they already did that. I applaud the Somaliland goverment of deporting 60.000 oromos back to Adama.I applaud the Kilil 5 admin in jigjiga for keeping the region protected from oromo trespassers. Please do not insult Somalis and do not associate us with those weak people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OdaySomali Posted March 28, 2013 Tallaabo;931279 wrote: I am sure this thread will inflame the Xaaji and induce a tirade prejudice from others like Oba and Haatu but let us take some time to learn more about this Somali-like nation next door. For a start, the very obvious similarities between the Somalis and the Oromos are their distinct looks, their dress, their culture, religion and now after a short academic study of their Youtube clips I am of the opinion that they speak a dialect of Somali. I mean when I listened to them attentively, very attentively I could almost hear them speak a weird Somali. For a Northerner like me, their language sounds Somali but is just as hard to understand as Maay Maay. Here is one such clip for you to look at: You can hear the Amharic corruption of the Oromo language. They are possibly old Somali group that splintered off from the main Somali population centuries back and then became because of centuries of Amhara/habesha domination Amharized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OdaySomali Posted March 28, 2013 Similarities in language: Although both Af-Somali and Afaan Oromo use the latin characters for their alphabet, you have to bear in mind that we may not use the same letters with the same pronounciation e.g. we spell Wiil, they spell Weel. Meaning: Father Somali: Aabo, Aabe Oromo: Abbaa -- Meaning: Son Somali: Ilmo Oromo: Ilma -- Meaning: Mother Somali: Hooyo Oromo: Haadha -- Meaning: Daughter Somali: Inan, Inantaa Oromo: Intala -- Meaning: Man, Men, People Somali: Niman Oromo: Nama -- Meaning: Five Somali: Shan Oromo: Shan --- Meaning: Teach Somali: Bar Oromo: Bar teacher = barsiiso -- Meaning: Year, time Somali: Waa, Waaga Oromo: Waggaa -- Meaning: The man, the men Somali: Ninka, Nimanka Oromo: Namicha -- Meaning: The end, End Somali: Dhamaad Oromo: Dhuma -- Meaning: owns/has Somali: Qaba Oromo: Qaba -- Meaning: Name, [What is] your name?, the name Somali: Magac, Magacaa?, Magacan oromo: Maqaa, Maqaan -- Meaning: Mouth, Language Somali: Af Oromo: Af[aan] -- Meaning: I Somali: Ani, Ani[ga] Oromo: Ani -- Meaning: You Somali: Adi, Aid[ga] Oromo: Ati -- Meaning: He Somali: Isa[ga] Oromo: Isa -- Meaning: You have Somali: Qabtaa Oromo: Qabda -- Meaning: We Enter Somali: Gallay Oromo: Galla -- Meaning: We learn Somali: Baranaa Oromo: Barra -- Meaning: Ears, listen Somali, Dhego, Dhegayso Oromo: Dhagga, Dhageessa -- Meaning: Go/get up Somali: Kac, Ka' Oromo: Ka' -- Menaing: Break, Break to pieces Somali: Chab (Jab), Chachab (jajab) Oromo: Cab, Cacab --- Meaning: 'say' or 'shout' Soomaali: iyaa [yaah] Oromo (Galla): iyya --------- Meaning: 'crockodile' Soomaali: yaxaas Oromo (Boni): yahaas Rendille (Reer Diinle): yahasi --------- Meaning: 'wild dog' Soomaali: yeey Oromo (Galla): yeeyii Oromo (Boni): yeye Rendille: yaay --------- Meaning: 'light' Soomaali: if/iftiin Oromo (Galla): ifa ----------- Meaning: 'long hair' Soomaali: dab Oromo (Galla): daabee ---------- Meaning: 'back' Soomaali: dhabar Oromo: daban ----------- Meaning: 'young bull' Soomaali: dibbi Oromo (Galla): dib-icca ----------- Meaning: 'man' [calling a man] Soomaali: waryaa [waraa] Oromo (Galla): warra -------- Meaning: 'call, invite' Soomaali: waani/waano Oromo (Galla): waama ----------- Meaning: 'hyena' Soomaali: waraabe Oromo (Galla): warab-esa Rendille: waraba ------------- Meaning: 'boy' or 'child' Soomaali: wiil Oromo (Boni): weel ---------- Meaning: 'son, brother' Soomaali: walaal Rendille: walal ------------ Meaning: 'rhinoceros' Soomaali: wiyil Rendille: weyel -------- Meaning: 'fruit of cactus' Soomaali: tin [tiintiin] Oromo (Galla): tini ----------- Meaning: 'spit' Soomaali: tuf Oromo (Galla): tufe ------------ Meaning: 'beat' Soomaali: tun [tuma dadkaas] Oromo (Galla): tuma Rendille: tum --------- Meaning: 'she-goat' Soomaali: ri' Oromo (Galla): ree ----------- Meaning: 'follow' Soomaali: raac Oromo (Boni): raa' Rendille: raah ---------- Meaning: 'run' Soomaali: orod Oromo (Boni): irid Rendille: irid ----------- Meaning: 'womb, uterus' or 'pregnant (of animals)' Soomaali: rimay, riman Oromo (Galla): riimaa Rendille: rim ----------- Meaning: 'rain' Soomaali: roob Oromo (Galla): rooba Oromo (Boni): roob ----------- Meaning: 'cow' Soomaali: sac Oromo (Galla): saa' --------- Meaning: 'lungs' Soomaali: sambab Oromo (Galla): somba --------- Meaning: 'cripple' Soomaali: naafa Oromo (Galla): naafa --------- Meaning: 'breath' or 'soul' or 'life Somali: naf [soul] or neef [breath] Oromo (Boni): nef ---------- Meaning: 'man' Soomaali: nin [niman] Oromo (Galla): nama ---------- Meaning: 'breath' or 'breathe' Soomaali: neefso Oromo (Boni): neefso Rendille: nefsi/nefso ---------- Meaning: 'live long' Soomaali: raage Oromo (Galla): raaga --------- Meaning: 'elephant' Soomaali: maroodi Oromo (Galla): marode --------- Meaning: 'be drunk' Soomaali: [ma cabee], cabid Oromo (Galla): macaw ---------- Meaning: 'family' or people Soomaali: maati [people] Oromo (Galla): maatii [family] --------- Meaning: 'manger' or 'home' Soomaali: moora ['animal shelter'], old homes Oromo (Galla): moora ---------- Meaning: 'herd of cows' Soomaali: lo' Oromo (Galla): loon Rendille: loolyo -------- Meaning: 'hen' Soomaali: luki [lost word, now dooro] Oromo (Galla): lukku --------- Meaning: 'leg, hip' Soomaali: lug Oromo (Galla): luka, lukaa Rendille: lux ---------- Meaning: 'name' Soomaali: magac Oromo (Galla): maqa Rendille: magaca ---------- Meaning: 'house' Soomaali: minan Oromo (Galla): mana, manaa Oromo (Boni): min --------- Meaning: 'bone' Soomaali: laf Oromo (Galla): lafe --------- Meaning: 'companion, relative' Soomaali: lammaan Oromo (Galla): lammii ----------- Meaning: 'heart' or 'chest Soomaali: lab [heart] Oromo (Galla): labb [chest] ----------- Meaning: 'swallow' Soomaali: liqid Oromo (Galla): liqim ----------- Meaning: 'foreskin' [dead skin] Somali: qolof Oromo (Galla): qolofa --------- Meaning: 'cold' Somali: qaboow Oromo (Galla): qabbanawa Rendille: qobo ---------- Meaning: 'young female camel' Somali: qaalin Rendille: qaalim ---------- Meaning: to bite Somali: qaniin Oromo (Galla): qinina ------------ Meaning: 'high mountain, summit' Somali: qar [qarka] Oromo (Galla): qara --- Meaning: Tongue Somali: Carab Oromo: Arrabba -- Meaning: Teeth/Tooth Somali: Ilko, Ilig Oromo: Ilkaan, Ilkee -- Meaning: Leg Somali: Lug Oromo: Luka -- Meaning: Knee Oromo: Jilba Somali: Jilib -- Meaning: Head Somali: Madax (madah) Oromo: Mataa --- Meaning: Hair Somali: Timo/ Rif? e.g. timhaha ka rif Oromo: Rifaa -- Meaning: face Oromo: Fuula Somali: Fool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 28, 2013 Millions of oromos don't even speak afaan oromo the arsi speak good afaan oromo the rest speak a very corrupt afaan oromo heavily mixed with Amharic or some dont even speak it. The shewan oromos and Tulamos and wollo oromos consider themselves Amharas they look up to them in Addis Ababa the oromos there will tell you they are Amharas loool. These people have huge inferiority complex and identity crisis.These people left their religion for political seats the Amharas promised them.These people Muslim so called oromos gave their daughters to christian Amharas. They have no leaders and their leaders dont speak their language, imam Ahmed guray led them once, the Somalis taught them the fine culture of islam The Somalis taught them you can fight the Habashis these people are insecure and they try to expand now with their numbers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 28, 2013 They even steal Somali songs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 28, 2013 interesting discussion, I will side with XX here but not totally. safferz and samafal are have blinders on and a bit naive. we should leave to the Somalis who have first hand knowledge of these people, aka the border Somalis. for the rest, your opinions don't matter frankly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted March 28, 2013 Samafal;931432 wrote: Caku iyo Soomali iyo dhul aysan dad u hayn yaa ku baroortay. War kii aan nala ku haysan baan hagaajin la;anahay ma midkalaad taag u haysaa. Tan kale aniga ha ii tirine ii sheeg meesha ay Oromo kaa qabsadeen. Diredawe waa magaalo la wada dago iyagaana kaaga badaan magacana iyaga luqadooda weeye ee is daji. Just because Somalia wey qasantahey that means we should let every Faarax and Farxiya to take our lands? A grown man with such caqli xumo is unbelievable. Hadana galkacyo ma siin lahayd. its strange people oo arintan wax yar ka so qaaday thank god Somalida shisheeye ag degan arintaas waka fejignaan yihin Sida reer NFD reer Djibouti iyo reer Somali galbeed. Reer Somalia waxa ba aad mooda inay yidhaheen wixi la qadanyo hala qaato waxba naga ma galin qaar kale babanu ugu darayna loooool Xaaji, these people have n idea that in NFD we don't even sell land/houses to non-somalis. I wonder if it was them if they would do the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 28, 2013 "in NFD we don't even sell land/houses to non-somalis" Haatu, then how come kikuyus are taking over garissa ? tell us more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted March 28, 2013 xabad;931458 wrote: "in NFD we don't even sell land/houses to non-somalis" Haatu, then how come kikuyus are taking over garissa ? tell us more. Kikuyu's are taking over Garissa? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 28, 2013 Who remembers during the derg koley dhaliyaru baad tihin it was oromo generals and politicians who advised the top derg leaders to displace Somalis and locate oromos and amhara in the Somali galbeed region. And that was the only way to crush the Somali separatist region if we plant our seeds in the heart land of the Somalis. The oromos were happy because they could easily take parts of the shinile region. Remember the Shinile region is full of oil and gas. And back than there were no ethnic kilils the region was called Hararghe region. it was General Tesfaye Gebre Kidan an oromo on both his mother and father side the highest military general of Ethiopia during the derg ,who wished that upon us and wanted to place amharas and oromos in Somali galbeed. In the late 19 century an oromo general Ras Gobena Dachi was Meneliks defense minister played the biggest role in subjugating his fellow oromos and also played a role when Somali galbeed was Incorporated into Abyssinia by force with 30.000 British rifles and a huge oromo army mostly from bale arsi shewa and borena districts from the oromo region.These people are not our allies they are our enemies they are not different than any other ethiopian. Haatu reer NFD know how to deal with shisheeye if it was samafal and others beri hore bay dhulka ka ibin lahayen kikiyuuada iyo rendileka iyo sabaxiliga kale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted March 28, 2013 it doesn't sound somali at all tallaabo. Rendille langage is similar too somali tho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted March 28, 2013 Xabad, LOOL Don't ask him that he thinks Kikuyus are better masters than Oromos. Haatu: You speak from your back side ninyahoow. Adigoo,reer NFD ah dad ha uga sheekayn wax iska celin. surrendered yourself to Kikuyus and you worried about Oromos taking you over, what a misguided priorities!! Sxbayaal Haaji Hate & co, You can't have it all. You can not say Oromos are cowards, insecure and submissive and at same time tell us they are going to get us. Surely, if they are harmless what is worry? Caqli habeen iga dheh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 28, 2013 They are cowards weak but they want to use their state Ethiopia and their numbers to invade Somalis and their territories , see oromos is not a normal ethnic group the highland oromos are expanding towards the north and those in western hararghe are expanding in our land. But ofcourse if Somalis are not vigilant weak people can expand into our territories. But i guess you don't care since you are not from Somali galbeed, that the Somali region already lost some many districts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
