Talks between the Somali Prime Minister and the raskambooni faction ends in complete failure

[Baashi]

Xiinoow, just wanna remind Ngonge the difference between country and government. Dissenting voices in Kismayo (and SOL members) are expressing their disagreement with government policies toward federal state formation. Wheres folks up North are sparing no effort to dismember their own country.

[NGONGE]

^^ The difference is very clear. The arguments presented by the Jubbaland folks (at least according to you) are not. That's what makes me smile here.

[gooni]

Mushkiladu aragtidayda haday aqoon kastaa jirto qabill baa loo lug xirnaanayaa

Hadii raysalwasaaruhu reer af madow ahaan lahaa reer gedo waxay oran lahaayeen asagoo garbasaartii caasho wata yuu noo yimid waxna ka akhrisan mayno,ama calasow baa warqad usoo dhiibay waa ha iska daba wareegto,hogaamyaha jabhadu waa nin soo halgamay lama tuuri karo iwm.

 

Taageerayaasha snm waa dad maaweelada jecel meeshii riwaayad ka jirto'ba ,xataa hadaysan af garanayn,ama ayagaa noo matala hadaysan qaadiraysnayn, lafiheenii jasiira,lafa kalaa lagu dhex daray hanalooga sooco,,it is entertainment for them

[xiinfaniin]

Baashi,

 

and the difference could not manifest better in our attitude toward Somalia; the unionists with all their differences (which have been remarkably getting smaller) are busy architecting a new political structure, while the separatists are holding onto a political experience that has not bought them much, AND are at the mercy of the unionists, politically speaking.

 

That ngonge conveniently confuses the birth pangs of the federal Somalia in Kismayo as a new divide that is analogous to the failed ideology in the North is quite telling where things has been lately with our brothers in Hargeysa --quite isolated and lonely

[NGONGE]

^^ Marna waxaad i waydiisa why did Siilaanyo get invited to Abu Dhabi, marna waxaad leedahay waa "isolated". Brilliant.

[xiinfaniin]

^^You are forgiven, good NGONGE, for confusing Jubbaland supporters with Northern separatists. The only explanation I could find for such a big slip of judgment is your need for company

[NGONGE]

^^ War dee naga daa. My laughter is at the arguments the Jubbalanders present for their cause, not at all about the issue itself. As for confusing them with Somaliland, well that would be like confusing a bristling cat for a lion. Wax fahan.

[xiinfaniin]

Their constitutional argument of having the right to establish a federal state WITHIN the federal structure of Somalia is akin with separatists arguments for being an independent state based on colonial borders ? :D

 

Actually such comparison should be source for laughter

[xiinfaniin]

[NGONGE]

^^ War askarto maxay ahaayeen? Ma hanjabaad ba?

[Carafaat]

Back to the topic. the failed talks between the Goverment of Somalia and the Raskambooni faction. Is it true the Goverment ordered more troops?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Somalilanders are just giving their opinion on these matters no need to read into it deeply

 

The reason why its being discussed its because its a hot topic.

 

I think the day the koonfurians accept somaliland statehood, is the day they can demand sl should not talk about their affairs

 

Nin kuleh isku dal ma nihin iyo mid kuleh isku dal baanu nahaqasab, hadana hadaad amuurihisa ka hadashid ku odhanaya maxaad uga hadlaysa adigu yaa ku fasaxay. Dhinac na wa ka qirayaa in la kala tegey dhinac na wa ka diidanyahay.anigu waxan leeyahay inoogu duceeya kala tageena marka cidna ka hadli mayso kismayadina dhinac loo raaco dadkanu malaha. Diidi wa adeer walaga hadlaya adkaysta lol

 

 

By the way siera leone troops will replace the kikuyus

[xiinfaniin]

^good morning Xaaji Habaar

 

You just forgot your introductory prayers against Puntland and the enemy clan

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Wa DegDeg Ah–Wadahadalkii Kismaayo uga socdey Dowlada FS iyo Maamulka KMG Kismaayo oo lagu kala kacay, iyo Dowlada oo loo qabtey ilaa beri

 

Warar rasmi ah oo hada soo gaaray Puntlandi ayaa sheegey in wadahadalkii labada Gudi uga socdey Kismaayo in laku kala kacay iyadoon wax heshiis ah laga gaarin.

Labada Gudi ee kala matalayay Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo Maamulka Kumeelgaarka ah ee Kismaayo ayaa wadahadaladoodu burbureen galabta makhribkii saacada Kismaayo, ka dib markii qodobada qolo walba soo bandhigtey ay u cubtami waayeen qolada kale.

Dhinaca kale Gudiga maamulka KMG ah ee Kismaayo iyagu waxay ka fuqi waayeen kuna dhaganyihiin in aysan sinaba uga kaaftoomeyn howsha ay waden labada sano oo ah in maamul Goboleed loo sameeyo Jubooyinka iyo Gedo halka qolyaha ka socda Dowlaadu ay iyana ku dhagan yihiin oo ay soo jeediyeen in qashinka lagu daro maamul Goboleedka Jubaland State badalkiisana la sameyo Maamul u gaara Gobolka Jubada Hoose oo lix bilood kumaal gaar ah.

War hoose oo rasmi ah oo ay heleen Howlwadeenada Puntlandi waxay sheegayaan in Gudiga Maamulka Kumeel Gaarka ah ee Kismaayo ay Dowlada u qabteen mudo 12 saac ah iney ku cadeeyaan Mowqifkooda ama ay isaga noqdaan meeshii ay ka yimaadeen.

Waxaa hada la sugayaa 12 kaas saac gudeheeda in isbadala dhaco iyo in kale hadii kale waxaa la qabanayaa shir jaraa’id oo lagu sheegayo in lagu kal tagay wada hadaladii iyadoon xal laga gaarin.

Hadiise Dowladu isbadal iyo ka waantoobid ka sameyso qodobada ay soo jeediyeen wadahadalka dib ayaa la isugu soo laabanayaa beri subax.

Puntlandi.com

Kismaayo

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Kismayo talks collapse says Somali government

Somali Interior minister Abdkarim Hussien Guled

 

Hiiraan Online

Friday, March 29, 2013

 

After five days of negotiations, Somalia’s federal government announced collapse of the long awaited talks led by the Somali prime minister Abdi Farah Shirdon and Kismayo’s interim governor Ahmed Madobe.

 

Somali Interior minister Abdkarim Hussien Guled who has accompanied the prime minister in Kismayo talks made the announcement at a press conference in the city.

 

“Negotiations between Somali federal government and Kismayo interim administration hit a deadlock” said Mr. Abdikarim.

 

He pointed out that his government made many sacrifices for it’s constitutional rights in order to break the deadlock and accused the interim administration for not doing enough to reach a political settlement.

 

“Our discussions were focusing on the creation of local administration, management of the port and airport, security, reconciliation and the liberation of the remaining areas, but all of them collapsed after the local leaders made unconstitutional demands” said the minister.

 

There are reports indicating that some of the federal government delegation have left Kismayo following the disagreements.

 

Interim administration of Kismayo which is led by Shiekh Ahmed Madobe is yet to comment on the matter.

 

The failure of the talks came after Somali Prime Minister Abdi Farah Shirdon arrived in Kismayo on Tuesday with high level delegation of ministers and MPs and started direct negotiations with local leaders.