N.O.R.F Posted May 17, 2013 Bashi, its funny how things turn out in Somali politics. The changes from support to opposition from calling for unity to supporting something that will create instability without any recourse. All over the period of just a year. Question, are the govnt concerns re Kenya's involvement merited? Xiin understandably doesn't want to go there. What should happen next? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 17, 2013 NORF, You are writing with an accusatory tone with respect to the newly born administration in Kismayo. That unto itself is a sign that Kismayo has succeeded It is funny with all the landers who were passionate about this topic, NORF is the only one who dared to show up with a half measure post. One understands why Mintid and Oodweyne are not as interested in Jubbaland anymore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted May 17, 2013 Jubbaland has got as far as it go without being a federal state officially which was inèvitable considering the scramble post the presidential election. Mintid iyo Odey predicted a split and that is what we have today. Now what happens next? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 17, 2013 N.O.R.F;951506 wrote: Jubbaland has got as far as it go without being a federal state officially which was inèvitable considering the scramble post the presidential election. Mintid iyo Odey predicted a split and that is what we have today. Now what happens next? split between who and who? Indha adaygaa iigu daran Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted May 17, 2013 3 people claim to be 'president'.surely you dont want me to walk you through that Ps what happens next? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 17, 2013 ^^Before you have us talk 'what happens next', you may want get your feet wet in what happened first Awoowe insha allaah kheyr. We do not see the problem you see, and that explains few things Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted May 17, 2013 What Norf wants to see and what is there to see are two different things, Yaa Xiin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 17, 2013 The Zack;951521 wrote: What Norf wants to see and what is there to see are two different things, Yaa Xiin. Exactly. And he does realize that :D hence the rekindled interest in Kismayo EDIT: NORF thinks Kismayo is a problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted May 17, 2013 Are you denying 3 guys are claiming to be Jubbaland president? Are you saying that doesn't mean there is a split? My name is Yaya Toure Let me know when you're comfortable discussing the big issues here. Ps there have been floods in South Somalia incase you didn't notice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 17, 2013 Somalia: President Madobe nominates Gen. Fartaag as Jubaland vice president 17 May 17, 2013 - 8:01:59 PM KISMAYO, Somalia May 17, 2013 (Garowe Online) - The newly elected president of Jubaland state in southern Somalia has nominated Gen. Abdullahi Ismail Fartaag as the state’s new Vice President in accordance with the adopted State Charter, Garowe Online reports. Jubaland President Sheikh Ahmed Mohamed Islam (Madobe) nominated Gen. Fartaag as Jubaland Vice President after consultations with community elders, politicians and intellectuals, according to sources in Kismayo. Gen. Fartaag took the oath of office Friday afternoon in Kismayo in front of community elders and other sectors of Jubaland society, witnesses reported. Speaking to the media, Gen. Fartaag said the Jubaland election of Ahmed Madobe as the new state’s first president was “right and legitimate”. Asked about Col. Barre Hirale, Gen. Fartaag, who like Barre Hirale also hails from Gedo region of Jubaland state, said that Gedo region's clan chief took part of the Jubaland constitutional conference. Col. Barre Hirale, a former Kismayo warlord, suddenly declared himself as Jubaland president on May 15, moments after Madobe’s election. Speaking on BBC, Ahlu Sunna militia leader Sheikh Mohamed Yusuf Libah, a politician from Gedo region, also said the Jubaland conference delegates’ election of Ahmed Madobe was legitimate after a consultative community process. Some 870 delegates adopted the Jubaland State Charter in April 2013, while 500 delegates took part in electing Ahmed Madobe as Jubaland president on May 15, 2013. Speaking on Puntland-based Radio Garowe on Friday, Mr. Abdinasir Serar spokesman for Kismayo’s former interim administration accused the Somali Federal Government of “fomenting community violence” in Kismayo. He said the Federal Government has “failed its national duty” and stated that, “political groups are backing Barre Hirale’s self-declared presidency”. "Barre Hirale came to Kismayo [in April] claiming to visit his family. This is a surprise that he suddenly declares himself a 'president'," he said. Somali Interior Minister Abdikarim Hussein Guled held a press conference on Thursday in Mogadishu, claiming that Jubaland has “two presidents”, warned against clan violence, and advised Federal Government troops and AMISOM peacekeepers to be “neutral” in the event of violence in Kismayo. Minister Guled also said that the Federal Government does not recognize the outcome of the Jubaland conference, with reports in Mogadishu noting that Prime Minister Abdi Farah Shirdon who hails from Gedo region refused to read yesterday's prepared statement in Mogadishu, whereby the Federal Government rejected the Jubaland conference's outcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted May 17, 2013 This is like telling a neighbour to mind his own business when he knocks on his neighbour's door to see if there is a domestic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 17, 2013 I hope I am fair NORF for I see you are in denial of the one year process where close 1000 delegates participated and eventually elected a president. Worse yet you are equating that process with one man's claim of presidency , a man who we didn't hear from for two days What gives awoowe? Why are you so biased against Kismayo, against peace and stability in an important region? : Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted May 17, 2013 I'm asking simple questions you're affraid to tackle Process or not there 3 presidents thus a split in the region. You support one and are posting threads about everything in support. Are YOU adding to the instability? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 17, 2013 ^^ :D You see , you are resolved to wish for instability in Kismayo. But there is none to be had. But just like you believe you are a country called Somaliland, you can believe Kismayo has three presidents Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 17, 2013 Madaxweyne Axmed Madoobe oo la caleemo saaray Published: May 17, 2013 Kn: Xaflad balaaran oo ka dhacday jaamacada Kismaayo ayaa lagu caleemo saaray Sheekh Axmed Madoobe oo dhawaan loo doortey madaxweynaha Jubbaland. Dad badan ayaa kasoo qeybgalay oo ay ka midyihiin musharixiintii tartantay qaarkood sida Sheekh Shakuul oo u hambalyeeyey madaxweynaha cusub, una rajeeyey in xilkiisa illaahay la garab galo. Shirar illaa shalay socday ayaa lagu dhameeyey, laguna go’aansaday in doorashadii Sheekh Axmed Madoobe ay si wanaagsan u dhacday, loona gudbo waxa xiga oo ah in dowlad rasmi ah la dhiso, iyada oo wadahadalada lagu qeybsaday golaha wasiiradda. Madaxweyne ku xigeenka Jubbaland ayaa loo magacaabay Jeneraal Cabdullaahi Fartaag, kaasi oo maanta isna la caleemo saaray. Waxaa lagu wadaa in lasoo xulo golaha baarlamaanka oo dooran doona gudoonkiisa, balse waxaa jirta in xukuumadda ay durba shaqo galayso maadaamaa ay jiraan duruufo amaan oo qasbaya in sidaasi la yeelo. Wixii kasoo kordha xaaladaha isbadalka badan ee Kismaayo ka socda dib ayaan kasoo gudbin doonaaa haddii alle idmo. KismaayoNews.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
