Kismayo Update

[N.O.R.F]

Dee there IS instability. 3 presidents, uncertainty and tension in the city with the malitias poised as reported Iin the media. You'r 10k miles away posting in favour of one side. Laakin aniga waad I daantaa soo maaha

[xiinfaniin]

Demos in support of Jubbaland

 

http://puntlandi.com/daawo-video-mudaharaad-aad-u-ballaran-oo-lagu-taagerayo-maamulka-jubaland-oo-garoowe-ka-dhacay/

[xiinfaniin]

swearing ceremony for Jubbaland vice president (video)

 

http://puntlandi.com/daawo-video-xafladdii-dhaarinta-ee-madaxweyne-ku-xigeenka-maamulka-jubaland-gen-fartaag-oo-maanta-kismaayo-ka-dhacday/

[Gaashaan]

Kismaayo oo looga diyaar garoobayo caleema saarka Madaxwayne Axmed madoobe iyo ku xigeenkiisa fartaag,,,,,,,,,,,,,Xafladaan oo la filayo inay kasoo qaybgalaan Madaxwaynayaal iyo madax ka socota wadamada IGAD iyo Caalamka.

[xiinfaniin]

The world endorsed the legitimate outcome of Jubbaland democratic deliberation ---that is what will become apparent in the following few days.

 

Jubbaland is up , next federalism will move to Bay & Bakool , and my friend MMAs:D folks , the birth place of this concept

[Dabrow]

N.O.R.F;951543 wrote:

Dee there IS instability. 3 presidents, uncertainty and tension in the city with the malitias poised as reported Iin the media.

You'r 10k miles away posting in favour of one side.

 

Let him ignore the reality on ground. It will come to a point where he cant ignore it anymore, how much xinnow looks away.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Waryaa Dabrow, adigu marna sida Gabal u caroon maysid belaad qabtaa

 

laakiin hawshaan dhammaataye , aan Baydhabo federalkeeda kawada hadalno , my opponents will change , MMA will lead them soon

 

It is federalist xiin vs centralists

[Dabrow]

^^Whatever you say Xiin. The bagdad bob of SOL:D

[malistar2012]

Ciidamada Midowga Africa ee AMISOM ayaa ka hadlay mowqifkooda ku aadan maamullada iska soo horjeeda ee laga dhisay Kismaayo.

 

Afhayeenka ciidamada AMISOM, Col. Cali Aden ayaa VOA u sheegay in AMISOM mowqifkoodu yahay inay taageerto hadba aragtida siyaasadeed ee dowladda federaalka ka qaadato arrimaha Somalia.

 

Afhayeenka AMISOM, wuxuu kaloo sheegay inay si dhow isha ugu hayaan arrimaha ka taagan Kismaayo oo haddii ay dhacdo in dhibaato halkaasi ka dhalato ay ciidanka AMISOM diyaar u yihiin inay dhex-gasho si khilifaaka loo joojiyo.

 

Falastin Axmed Iman ayaa Afhayeenku uga warramay aragtida AMISOM ee ku aadan Kismaayo. Jawaabta Korneylka halkan hoose ka dhageyso.

[Baashi]

Somali government says guns won't decide disputed port's fate

 

By Abdi Sheikh

 

MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Somalia's new government said on Monday it was pursuing talks to resolve rival claims for control in the south that have stoked fears of a return to the clan wars that pitched the nation into anarchy two decades ago.

 

A local assembly on Thursday declared a former Islamist warlord, Ahmed Madobe, president of Jubaland. Madobe is not viewed favourably by Mogadishu and within a day two other men had pronounced themselves president, including Barre Hirale, a former warlord and defence minister seen as pro-government.

 

How the fate of Jubaland and its port city Kismayu is resolved will be a litmus test for Somalia as it rebuilds from the ruins of war and cements a fragile peace, a quest hampered by the central government's weakness outside Mogadishu.

 

Islamist militants or clan militias, hovering in the wings, could swoop if the competition for Kismayu turns violent. But guns have stayed silent so far and the government's stated determination to seek talks could help it stay that way.

 

"It will take time but there is no going back to civil war. That is not an option," Ahmed Adan, a spokesman for Prime Minister Abdi Farah Shirdon Saaid, told Reuters, calling for "peaceful and authentic negotiations".

 

On the ground, several Kismayu residents said they still feared a resurgence of the gun-toting militias that carved up the Horn of Africa state after civil war erupted in 1991.

 

"Kismayu is returning to the era of warlords. It is each clan and its own might," Dahaba Olad, a mother of eight, said by telephone. "We don't want war, but it is inevitable."

 

Shopkeeper Safia Ali said she was doubtful southern Somalia's clan rivalries could be overcome. "Sooner or later there will be civil war in Kismayu," Ali said.

 

Their fears are fuelled by Kismayu's strategic position.

 

"Kismayu is perhaps the biggest prize to be had in Somalia," said J Peter Pham of the U.S.-based Atlantic Council. "It has the biggest working seaport in the country, two airports, and is surrounding by potentially rich agricultural lands."

 

DIVVYING UP POWER

 

Regional capitals and Western donors are nervous of any reversal of gains made in Somalia by African Union peacekeepers in the fight against the Islamist al Shabaab rebels, seen as a threat to stability in east Africa and well beyond.

 

President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud's cash-strapped federal government exerts little authority beyond Mogadishu. How to divvy up power between the centre and regions is a thorny issue, particularly when Kismayu's lucrative port is at stake.

 

The prime minister's office said a high-level government delegation was in negotiations with the rival parties. There is, though, a widespread feeling among Somalia's southern clans that Mogadishu is not listening to their demands.

 

Even so, a mixture of exhaustion with conflict and a desire to capitalise on Kismayu's trade flow could help peace to hold.

 

"Among the clans I don't think there is any appetite for civil war. There is, though, a real appetite for control of power and resources," said Abdi Aynte, director of the Mogadishu-based Heritage Institute for Policy Studies.

 

Madobe, who some see as close to Kenya, was governor of Kismayu during an Islamist administration that was routed when Ethiopian forces, with the tacit backing of the United States, waged an offensive in Somalia from 2006 to 2009.

 

He was held in Ethiopia for two years. After his release Madobe and his powerful Ras Kamboni militia sided with Kenyan troops against al Shabaab from late 2011.

 

Kenya's land forces swept into Somalia to secure the porous frontier the two share and are now part of a near 18,000-strong African Union peacekeeping force fighting al Shabaab. A Kenyan ally in Kismayu could provide Nairobi with a welcome buffer.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/somali-government-says-guns-wont-decide-disputed-ports-155008849.html

[oba hiloowlow]

Wasiirkii hore ee Dastuurka Dowladdii KMG ahayd Xildhibaan C.rixmaan Xoosh Jabriil oo kamid ah Waftigii dowladdu u dirtay Magaalada Kismaayo oo Waraysi gaar ah siiyay Warbaahinta Saadaal Media ayaa faah faahin dheeraad ah ka bixiyay waxyaabihii u qabsoomay intii ay Kismaayo ku sugnaayeen.

 

C/rixmaan Xoosh Jabriil ayaa sheegay inay kulamo la qaateen dadka dagan Kismaayo isla markaana ay is waydaarsadeen Fikradihii ay dowladda ka wadeen iyo sidoo kale aragtida dadka reer Kismaayo ee ku aadan Maamulada faraha badan ee looga dhawaaqay Magaalada.

 

C/raxmaan Xoosh Jabriil ayaa wuxuu hoosta ka xariiqay inay Magaalada Kismaayo kula kulmeyn Odayaasha Dhaqanka, wax garadka, dhalinyarada iyo weliba haweenka ku

dhaqan, sida uu yiri.

 

Waxaan soo ogaanay buu yiri inay dadku doonayaan Maamul buuxo oo ay dadka ku wada mideysan yihiin, isagoo xusay inaysan dadka reer Kismaayo dooneyn, Maamulka hal garab uun ka socda.

 

Maamulada kala duwan ee looga kala dhawaaqay Magaalada Kismaayo, ayuu wuxuu cadeeyay inuu si xoog leh uga horimaanaayo Dastuurka dalka, wax walba oo Sharuucda dalka u degsan kahor imaanaaya, ayuu sheegay inay yihiin waxaan soconeyn.

 

Mr Xoosh ayaa wuxuu tibaaxay in waxa ay doonayaan dadka reer Kismaayo, la heli karo oo kaliya sida uu yiri, kolka loo ogaansamo Dastuurka dalka, haddii aan sidaasi la yeelin ayuu sheegay inuu fashil ku soo idlaan doono, rabitaan kasta oo la doono.

 

Wasiirkii hore ee Dastuurka dowladda Soomaaliya ayaa sidoo kale xusay dadkii ay la kulmeen inay ka codsadee in dowladdu ka howlgasho Kismaayo, sida Xarumaha Booliska iyo dhaqaalaha si dadka deegaanku ay Cadaalad ugu qayb sadaan Khayraadka deegaankooda.

 

Waxaa uu sheegay inay la kulmeen Wakiilo ka kala socday Raga sheegtay Madaxwaynayaasha Jubbaland isla markaana ay kala hadleen sida ugu haboon ee arinta la iskugu keeno karo.

[Baashi]

I'm impressed Reer hebel, wacade, turub baray They get a trojan horse slip in the cover over the dark by a boat and after 12 days decalre himself a president!

 

Today Reuters dispatcher files in a report that gives credence to that new narrative.

 

(1) Government in Mogadishu spares no effort to bring the "dispute" amony rival clans in Kismayo to an end.

(2) Mogadishu won't allow guns to be used in resolving this "dispute"

(3) Dahabo Olad -- mother of eight & Safia Ali Said -- a shopekeeper (folks on ground zero) tell like it is They conveyed their assessment over the mobile phone.

(4) Ahmed Adan -- a spokesperson of the Prime Minister's office -- informs this dispatcher that the era of civil war is over and there is no going back.

(5) J Peter Pham confirms the strategic importance of the region

(9) Finally, Abdi Aynte the head of the "Think Tank" in Mogadishu weighs in on the issue.

 

Pretty objective, fair and balanced reporting by Abdi Sheikh

 

Maxaa kuu baxay? Adduun!

[Dabrow]

Thanks Baashi for the link. Even Reuters is talking about the looming instability in Kismayo. A reality the likes of Xiin wants to supress and forget about.

 

 

"On the ground, several Kismayu residents said they still feared a resurgence of the gun-toting militias that carved up the Horn of Africa state after civil war erupted in 1991.

 

"Kismayu is returning to the era of warlords. It is each clan and its own might," Dahaba Olad, a mother of eight, said by telephone. "We don't want war, but it is inevitable."

 

Shopkeeper Safia Ali said she was doubtful southern Somalia's clan rivalries could be overcome. "Sooner or later there will be civil war in Kismayu," Ali said.

 

Their fears are fuelled by Kismayu's strategic position."

[Jacpher]

Maaddeey;952719 wrote:

Maaddeey:

 

Waraa goormaad u janjeertay dhanka Hassan iyo Hiiraale ood ka tagtay them Al Qaacida boys you used to speak high of on this board? Ma lay off baa lagaa siiyay howshii aad heysay mise qabiil baa ku qaaday?

[xiinfaniin]

Baashi, this media offense is quite impressive no doubt.

 

Ina Caynte waa abtirsaday , I always knew him as a man with grievance against one Somali clan. He found a platform to convey his message to the world :D

 

President Hassan has too many balls in the air; Jubbaland, Somaliland, Puntland, Federalism, Kenya , Ethiopia, and a significant number of MPs advancing a motion against his PM.

 

As it happens Kismayo is just fine , and no word from Barre since that famous phone interview and the youtube clip :D