Jacpher Posted March 26, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;930665 wrote: There is no such thing as freedom of religion in a Muslim country apostates should not be encouraged if they want to be Christians or Jews or Hindus they should do it else where. How ever born Christians families who were born as Christians or Jews should be respected. xaaji: how do you born Christian or Jewish :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted March 26, 2013 Jacpher;930670 wrote: xaaji: how do you born Christian or Jewish :D :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 26, 2013 Jacpher;930670 wrote: xaaji: how do you born Christian or Jewish :D Well if you were born into a christian family or a Jewish family Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted March 26, 2013 Jacpher, millions is an exaggeration but i think there big portion of the Somali peoples live in the west, like almost the commentators here but am going to disagree with you an their not being able to do anything about. First, all the leaders back home are citizen of western nations, from America to australia. Second they seem to support religious oppression, even though they would not be where they are if it was not for religious freedom. A good case in point, our friend here xaaji that is unless his Jewish loool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted March 26, 2013 Jacpher;930670 wrote: xaaji: how do you born Christian or Jewish :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 26, 2013 Dadkan maxay la qos qoslayaan Alpha adeerka Raymond so nin Christan ah mu ahaan jirin caruurtisa christaan bay ku dhasheen maha dad ridoobay oo diinta ka baxay Michael maryama caruurtisa maha dad ridoobay wa dad christaanimo lugu dhalay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted March 26, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;930677 wrote: Well if you were born into a christian family or a Jewish family If you born into christian or Jewish family, you get a pass. If you convert, cut his head off miyaa sheekadu. What about through interreligious marriage? Another law applies? None of these sound so fair and don't go according to Islamic teaching. No one comes to this world out of the womb Christian or Jewish. It's his/her parents that turn them into Christian or Jewish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted March 26, 2013 xaaji what of the parts the quran that tell you there is no compulsion one, and two if you were born a Christian and you saw the light and converted to islam, should you be killed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 26, 2013 Well don't have sharia courts in our countries so chopping of heads is out of the question. But if one leaves the religion he can face the death penalty but if he didn't leave religion and he was born Christian than what is the problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted March 26, 2013 Naxar Nugaaleed;930678 wrote: Jacpher, millions is an exaggeration but i think there big portion of the Somali peoples live in the west, like almost the commentators here but am going to disagree with you an their not being able to do anything about. First, all the leaders back home are citizen of western nations, from America to australia. Second they seem to support religious oppression, even though they would not be where they are if it was not for religious freedom. A good case in point, our friend here xaaji that is unless his Jewish loool So to follow your logic, the Asians and Arabs living here enjoying freedom of religion here are directly responsible for whatever religious oppression going on in their home country. No? Pakistani and Saudi American citizens here are responsible for all that their government does in the their country in name of religion. No? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted March 26, 2013 Heh! They are only doing it for the green card. Somalis are daneysteyaal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted March 26, 2013 you missed the point completely, simply put as former resident of western nations where they enjoyed these freedoms now leading Somalia, they should no better. as for Somalis currently in the West, they should be less hypocritical and support the freedoms that allow to live their lives peacefully here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted March 26, 2013 Xaaji, focus on your self for a moment, you live in a Jewish state, how should YOU be treated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted March 26, 2013 Haatu even if they are doing it for the sake of the green card they are murtadeen. Irsaaqo wax walbo lagama raadsho! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted March 26, 2013 Naxar Nugaaleed;930714 wrote: you missed the point completely, simply put as former resident of western nations where they enjoyed these freedoms now leading Somalia, they should no better. as for Somalis currently in the West, they should be less hypocritical and support the freedoms that allow to live their lives peacefully here. Sxb, I am trying to show you're confusing apple and oranges. Where someone or a leader lived or studies has little to do with the existing laws and the rules of that country. Somalis enjoying freedom of religion and press in their host country has nothing to do with how their home country is run and they aren't responsible for such laws. One is a personal choice, the other is the written rules and laws of a country. Many leaders in Middle East including Jordan, Egypt, Saudia have top officials who studied and lived in the West for many years yet their countries have laws limiting religious freedom. It has little to do with their own personal preference than the country's law of the land. You are making a huge assumption saying Somalis are hypocritial in nature for enjoying freedom of religion here and denying others of such freedom in their country. Based on what? What evidence that shows Somalis here actually blocked freedom of religion back home? Are you suggesting Farmaajo, Sharmarke, Gaas and the few MPs that left here are guilty of taking away freedom of religion back home? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites