Baashi Posted March 25, 2013 Adduun Inna Samatar campaigned for the PM position but was unsuccessful. Warku waa intaa awoowe He must have thought there was a chance to win the golden cup otherwise he wouldn't have tried in the first place He offered his “on paper” political party to Hassan and proposed a merger but the other side didn’t see the need to merge with a “party” with no grassroots support. He campaigned for a cabinet portfolio. Again he didn’t bring anything to the table. He had neither G clan loyalty nor Awdal constituents. He forgot the fact that the northern *** clan’s inclusion in the South political process was to fulfill “the place holder” feature of the roadmap until the real players in that corner (SL admin) show up. All politics are local and the game in M town was no different. Galeyr and Inna Samatar tried to sell their “Somaliweyn” credentials to another Somaliweyn supporter and that’s not how politics work. You keep what you have and seek what you don’t have. Granted they make natural ally to southern pro-union loyalists but at the end of the day they do not have what it takes to deliver SL or PL. I am very disappointed in him with his habit of going around and telling tall tales that’s neither here nor there. Awoowe the man should have known better. Politics is a dirty and ruthless business for shrewd, conniving and calculating people. Politicians have to put everything on the line. The wannabees gotta do what is required in order to gain the support necessary to win. They have to build coalitions, gain allies, make promises and sell their vision. What did he do other than go there and expect his tenure in the College is enough draw to win votes? Presidency was up for grabs. Every MP had a vote that counts and every one of them was free to cast however he or she pleases. There were numerous candidates running and the winner was underdog that came out of nowhere. That’s very telling. The president-elect weighed his options and chooses his MP. Of all the folks, Inna Samatar could not make the cut politically speaking. Silanyo has a shot as he can deliver the goods. If only Hassan has the wisdom and courage to appoint Silanyo as the PM and concede Federalism (cease and desist challenging this provision of the constitution by pushing a watered down version through the parliament) to appease D-block as that is what matters to them at this juncture of Somali politicking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted March 25, 2013 Baashi;930266 wrote: If only Hassan has the wisdom and courage to appoint Silanyo as the PM and concede Federalism (cease and desist challenging this provision of the constitution by pushing a watered down version through the parliament) to appease D-block as that is what matters to them at this juncture of Somali politicking. Sometimes I think some of u people live in an alternate reality. Did this Baashi guy really reduce the entire Somaliland-Somalia issue to a case of a measly PM post, one for that matter appointed by a president who can't even step outside his compound without san-gadhuudhi soldiers? If all Somaliland wanted was a PM post we didn't need to secede from Somalia to get that...we could take it by force in the early 90's as we emerged as one of the two victorious rebel groups that brought down the kacaan government. In fact we already held this position when Cumar Carte was PM in the early 90's, and that didnt appease Somalilanders did it? Somaliland is a poltical reality on the ground, and a force to be reckoned with. And no amount of poltical bribes from the impotent government in Xamar will change that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted March 25, 2013 LOL... Baashi, You've taken an accurate measuring of the Samatar Professor(as well as Galeydh) and his out-of-touch hopes for being 'someone of consequence' in the Somali political sphere Where your analysis fails is in the option of Siilaanyo for PM. Siilaanyo, along with any of the previous office holders of the SL presidency, could have easily ran away with the entire Somalia presidency since the time of Egal. The Western donors would've bestowed this prize on them in another failed attempt to rid themselves of this Somali quagmire, once and for all. There are actual cases of this being offered(in particular, during Egal's tenure). Even Puntland leadership realizes this, from the time of A. Yusuf to Faroole. Hence, the re-occuring habit on Puntland's part to call for a union of SL/PL in order to claim a new Somali center of gravity. A. Yusuf even went as far as offering the Presidency to Egal(as attested to by his Chief of Staff on a WardheerNews op-ed). The question is why hasn't SL leadership bitten the offering? Well, politicians are driven by selfish interest and SL Presidents, obviously, haven't seen enough of a temptation to switch from a seat at the SL leadership table to a seat at the Mogadishu one. Not to mention the greater danger of that SL leader immediately loosing his constituency once he embarks on that road. And it's precisely the heft/power of that constituency that's made SL leaders a power to be reckoned with in the Somali peninsula. Wadani, Revisionism and crooked presentations of the root causes of Somaliland's creation is a craft well-practiced by our neighboring brothers. What they fail to realize is how this only serves to further distance any meaninful accomodation between the two positions. But we can afford to live in this situation(while not optimal) for another 22 years while continuing to build on the gains made thus far. Can the rest of the former Somalia?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted March 25, 2013 True. My sometimes off base analysis misses the mark by a mile iyo hodhodho'. After all I have never step my skinny foot on Somalia since 1991. I am just another Somaliweyn supporter looking in from the outside. That being the case I always stand corrected if my feeds prove to be inaccurate. Now as they say war jiraaba cakaaro iman We'll soon find out if the stuff you've beed fed from tolka can stand up to the test of time. I am telling you folks Somalidu wax bey kala riixaneysaa. Jagada iyo martabada waa la isku maagi jidhay, haatan waa la isku heystaa, sidaasaana berrito loo kala riixan doonaa. If you think Durriyada greivances is limited to "we were colonized by different European power and we're striving to reconstitute now defunct bygone status then you are in for a surprise Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted March 25, 2013 gooni;930062 wrote: Carafaad ma jiro qof kalsooni ku joogi kara koonfurta wuxuu doonaba ha ahaado mowduucu saas maahan saaxiib waxaan ka hadlaynay waa qof usoo is taagay hogaamiye qaran oo waqooyi galbeed ka yimid ma la maqlay mase la arkay 22'kii sano ee lasoo dhaafay? Mar kale laga hadli maayo qabiil calan samaystay iyo xerta suufiyada,,,waa hogaamiye qaran again? koonfurtu talo mahayso laakiin khayaalkoodu waa waasac marnaba laga maqli maayo ilinta ha layga tiro Waa talo fiican saaxiib xaasid iyo xaqiir lama noqdo mana ahi, Adigana aan talo ku siiyo dagaaladii sokeeye cid xoriyad ka heshay ma jirto sheekada marwada mujaahidku ka dhintay soo af jara,wadanka hogaan kiisa ka qayb qaado adigoo xor ah. Saxiib, wee jiraan rag kasoo jeeda waqooyi oo isku so sharaxay madaxtinimada Somalia. Prof Samater is one of them, laakinse si cad ayaa loogu yidhi qabiilo gaar ah ayaa isku so sharixi kara madaxtinimada. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted March 25, 2013 Baashi;930271 wrote: True. My sometimes off base analysis misses the mark by a mile iyo hodhodho' If you think Durriyada greivances is limited to "we were colonized by different European power and we're striving to reconstitute now defunct bygone status then you are in for a surprise Talk about mischaracterization of an argument, sxb. Many have their opinions on that topic. Mine is very simple: It(SL) works! Nothing else in the former Somalia works... You're leaving out the fail-safe mechanism within the SL system that the rest of the former Somalia doesn't have: one-man/woman, one-vote. You see, only in Somaliland does the average Jamac and Xaliimo get a vote! This limits the room for maneuver of any politician within that system. While some of us agitate from the sidelines regarding tactics(which is all it is, irrespective of your misunderstanding), we rest assured that a certain social compact exists that's the backbone of the whole system. That's the guarantee of the system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted March 25, 2013 Carafaat;930277 wrote: Saxiib, wee jiraan rag kasoo jeeda waqooyi oo isku so sharaxay madaxtinimada Somalia. Prof Samater is one of them, laakinse si cad ayaa loogu yidhi qabiilo gaar ah ayaa isku so sharixi kara madaxtinimada. Way dhici kartaa saxiib wayna dhacday waayo meesha hadda la joogo waa laandheere iyo qabiil system aqoon looma gudbin,dadkii uu matali lahaana waxay xayndaab ugu jiraan snm oo oranaya way soo baxsadeen, waxayna mutaysteen xarig, xeerka snm qodobkiisa 4aad, firqada lixaad, ciqaabta carqqaladaynta aqoonsiga somaliland yaa lagu qaadayaa iyo waxaan macno badanayn Nin iyo labo iyo sadex waxba qaran balaadhan uma noqon karaan adeer ayadoon qabiil laga xoroobin ama lagu xoroobin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 25, 2013 ^^ Gooni marka ma waxad leedahay kuwa reer SL eeh jooga xamar wa iska maqar saar waxba lama weydiyo:D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted March 25, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;930313 wrote: ^^ Gooni marka ma waxad leedahay kuwa reer SL eeh jooga xamar wa iska maqar saar waxba lama weydiyo:D Maya xaaji waa rag sharaf leh oo qiimo badan balse nadaamka soomaali diidka yaa laangaab ka dhigay good night saxiib sac'baa qoobka igu hayee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
