Puntland's Image Problem

[Jacpher]

^Yeah, it is breaking news for Carafaat there is piracy and insecurity in this part of the world.

 

Che -Guevara;928670 wrote:

^The world has always been aware, it's you who thinks they are not. How does all this matter anyway?

Helps the secessionists sleep better I guess.

[Carafaat]

Che, why dont you should tell that to the VOA News section.

[xiinfaniin]

LOL@Carafaat & VOA

 

So Carafaat demands Che talk to VOA

[Che -Guevara]

Carafaat;928667 wrote:

Despite Puntlands efforts to potray itself as another 'Somaliland', international media seem to be more and more aware of the regions anarchism (piracy, smuggling, terrorism). Of course this something we Somalis knew all along.

You made an assertion here. Defend it or be on your way.

[Mintid Farayar]

Che -Guevara;928674 wrote:

^Dear boy, countries send their navies to fight piracy off coast of Puntland and shipping companies pay higher insurance premiums because of piracy emanating from Puntland. Again, tell us something world doesn't know!

 

Che,

 

You know that, I know that, the world knows that... But every once a while, it's necessary to bring some others on this Board back to reality as to where things stand...

 

A little soft landing....

[xiinfaniin]

Puntland and UNDP Held Meeting this is for Carafaat

 

Xarunta Qaramada Midoobey ee magaalada Garowe ayaa maanta 20 March,2013 lagu qabtey kulan balaaran oo u dhaxeeyey Puntland iyo Hayada mashaariicda horumarineed u qaabilsan UN-ka ee UNDP.

 

Madaxweynaha Puntland Cabdiraxman Maxamed Farole ayaa ka qaybgalay iyo wasaaradaha qaarkood ee bahwadaagta la ah UNDP sida Cadaalada ,Arimaha gudaha ,Qroshaynta ,Maaliyada ,Caafimaadka ,Waxbarashada ,Ganacsiga ,Shaqada & Shaqaalaha,Deegaanka ,PAC, Hantidhowrka iyo Hayada Shaqaalaha Rayidka.

 

UNDP ayaa waxa matalayey madaxa Puntland u qaabilsan Kuone Toonen, xubno ka socdey deeqbixiyaasha ,halka si toos ah maqal iyo muuqaalba uga qayb qaadanayeen saraakisha UNDP Muqdisho ,Nairobi iyo New York.

 

Qorshaha sanadkan 2013 ayaa Puntland soo bandhigtey dhinacyada u baahan in wax lagala qabto sida Adkeynta nabadgelyada ,maareynta colaadaha ,ilaalinta deegaanka iyo guud ahaan mashaariicda horumarineed. - See more at: http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Wararka_19/GAROWE_Kulan_ku_dhexmarey_Puntland_iyo_UNDP.shtml#sthash.nm1e5cK6.dpuf

[Che -Guevara]

Xiin...The problem with the secessionists is that they can't decide if they are their own country or simply another tribal state within Somalia.

 

Mintid...Everybody knows including people you want to give some reality check. Even Faroole made an appeal to the world in order to fight piracy.

[Somalia]

War Somalilanders are far more aware and surpass collective bodies all over the world. They know something people (who govern economies of which the secessionist region would not even measure on the same scale) do not know!

 

Yet, this same world which was unaware seems to be connected to Puntland more than ever, ambassadors and dignitaries having visited the region more frequently, unaware international bodies pouring in millions to fund development projects, companies having invested over $100 million in oil exploration, whereas the secessionist region is slowly becoming isolating. The notion that Puntland in anyway wants to resemble a destitute region living in political purgatory is of the utmost insult.

One has to aim a little higher than that.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Che -Guevara;928660 wrote:

You are measuring yourself against a war-torn city which might soon left you in the dust should peace takes hold and money keeps pouring not in the international recognition and diaspora.

 

Hargeysa has been peaceful for 20 yrs, surely it should be light years ahead of Mogadishu?

 

Not entirely true peace was finally achieved in 1997 in Somaliland and that's when the construction and re stablishment of Hargeysa began.Somaliland was declared in 1991 but surely peace was achieved years later. Hargeisa was totally destroyed in 1988 than the Somaliland civil war began in 1992 and it ended in 1997. Mogadishu on the other hand was totally intact in 1991, but it took them 8 years to totally demolish the city. And construction of Mogadishu restarted lets say in 2011. It initially began in 2005 but than the Ethiopian invasion happened it got destroyed again. So the past 2 years Mogadishu began its reconstruction of the city. But it cannot be compared to Hargeisa Mogadishu has powerful friends in the international community they have a recognized goverment they have turkey as a key ally in rebuilding Mogadishu. So they wont go through the process hargeisa went through so it cant be compared. Now if Somaliland was recognized than the 2 could have been compared.

[Gheelle.T]

The West were issuing travel warnings on SL couple of months ago. So what sort of image does that give you about SL. Calaalka badanaa raggu

[xiinfaniin]

Somalia;928685 wrote:

War Somalilanders are far more aware and surpass collective bodies all over the world. They know something people (who govern economies of which the secessionist region would not even measure on the same scale) do not know!

 

Yet, this same world which was unaware seems to be connected to Puntland more than ever, ambassadors and dignitaries having visited the region more frequently, unaware international bodies pouring in millions to fund development projects, companies having invested over $100 million in oil exploration, whereas the secessionist region is slowly becoming isolating.

The notion that Puntland in anyway wants to resemble a destitute region living in political purgatory is of the utmost insult.

One has to aim a little higher than that.

I demand this lecture be repeated in Hargeysa university, if such a school exists

[xiinfaniin]

Che,

 

Our secessionists brothers are going through a tough period politically speaking. So bear with them awoowe. I have been entertaining them last few days

[Mintid Farayar]

Further reality checks are needed. You see, we don't need to quote from obscure websites set up by our little cousins in the diaspora

 

 

 

 

 

Somali piracy 'boosts Puntland economy'

Images of central Garowe: The left one taken in February 2002, the right in June 2009

 

New research suggests piracy has led to widespread economic development in some parts of Somalia.

 

The study, published by British think-tank Chatham House, looked at detailed satellite imagery.

 

Regional centres have benefited from substantial investment funded by piracy, but coastal communities have missed out, the report indicates.

 

International naval patrols in the Gulf of Aden are making it more difficult for Somali pirates to launch attacks.

 

However, at least 40 vessels and more than 400 hostages are still being held in or just off Somalia, according to the Ecoterra International group which monitors piracy in the region.

 

A two-decade civil war in Somalia has allowed pirates to flourish.

 

Some of them are former fishermen who say they were put out of business by trawlers from around the world taking advantage of the power vacuum to fish in Somali waters.

 

 

The study suggests a land-based solution is needed to tackle the problem.

 

Report author Anja Shortland says that in 2009, pirates received an estimated $70m (£46m) in ransom payments - more than five times the official budget of the semi-autonomous Puntland region where most pirates are based and almost double total cattle exports from the whole of Somalia.

 

She cites a UN study that about 30% of a ransom payment goes to pirates, 10% to their shore-based helpers, 10% in gifts and bribes to the local community and 50% to financiers and sponsors, who are generally based abroad.

 

She used high-resolution daytime satellite images and also looked at night light emissions throughout the decade starting in 2000.

 

The night pictures show a significant increase in light emissions from Puntland's main centres of Garowe and Bosasso.

 

This suggests an increase in electricity consumption because of economic development, the study says.

 

The increase in the highest intensity light spots in those cities came despite a general decline in intensity across Somalia, which Ms Shortland attributes to global food and energy price rises and renewed conflict.

 

None of the pirate communities on the coast appeared to have enough power, she observed.

 

Shared benefits

Analysis of daytime satellite image showed that Garowe almost doubled in area between 2002 and 2009, with significant housing, industrial and commercial developments.

 

Many houses were newly built or repaired between those dates and a much larger number have vehicles parked outside.

 

The key pirate ports of Eyl and Hobyo, by contrast, showed evidence of only limited and relatively small improvements to their infrastructure.

 

 

The report concludes that significant amounts of ransom money are spent in the regional centres, with the benefits being shared out between a large number of people due to the clan structures in place.

 

"Puntland's political elites are therefore unlikely to move decisively against piracy," it says.

 

In addition to satellite images, the Chatham House report analysed information collected by non-governmental organisations on commodity prices and wages.

 

Data from the Food Security and Nutrition Analysis Unit suggests nominal daily wages in the pirate provinces of Nugal and Muduq "have caught up with and then overtaken non-pirate regions since the explosion of piracy in 2008," the study says.

 

In Nugal province, the daily wage increased from 40,000 Somali shillings in 2005 to 120,000 in 2011 ($1 = 25,000 Somali shillings).

 

"This is likely to reflect both direct employment opportunities and investments into local businesses."

 

The report adds that the positive effect of piracy on incomes in parts of Puntland has been offset by the impact of food price inflation.

 

International response

In response to the massive increase in piracy off Somalia in 2008 and international naval force was established to patrol the seas off Somalia.

 

The Chatham House report observes that pirate attacks off Somalia have become considerably more violent since mid-2010, because of the increased difficulty of capturing ships.

 

"Pirates now invest more resources in maximising the return from each captured ship," it says.

 

The report also warns that if pirates increase their co-operation with Islamist militants from the al-Shabab group, piracy could end up funding regional instability and terror.

 

Ms Shortland argues that a land-based response is necessary to help tackle piracy.

 

"A negotiated solution to the piracy problem should aim to exploit local disappointment among coastal communities regarding the economic benefits from piracy and offer them an alternative that brings them far greater benefits than hosting pirates does," she says.

 

"A military crack-down on the other hand would deprive one of the world's poorest nations of an important source of income and aggravate poverty."

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16534293

[Che -Guevara]

Xaaji....You are missing the point. The thing is we have secessionists glorifying the success of Somaliland (which is good thing if it's done in earnest) but then turn around and air incessantly all that's wrong with Somalia (which the world knows) or regions within Somalia, sadly little to show for their actions.

 

Mintid....You are again not presenting anything new.

[xiinfaniin]

One off article, in 12 January 2012...that is Mintid when he is not thinking right

 

It was great for some of the money to be spent in Garoowe, instead of Nairobi and Dubai (which was where the bulk of pirate profits went)

 

Dahab Shiil, a Hargeysa based hawala business understood the business side of the piracy , ask around awoowe

 

EDIT:

 

The subtext of Mintid's effort is to educate outside world about Puntland and its pirate relations . Seriously, the brother thinks his little posts have far reaching consequences and could have a policy change