NGONGE Posted March 6, 2013 ^^ The ordinary people is all that matters. It's what legends are made off, saaxib. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted March 6, 2013 for those who compare siyaad barre and hugo....STOP being futile. they are both dead and let them rest in peace. isku xishooda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted March 6, 2013 Apophis;924423 wrote: I know what you're doing sxb and it'll not work. And Melez was a murderous capitalist not a socialist. Apples and eggs sxb. Both went the same way in the end and both governments kept it secret for weeks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macallinka Posted March 6, 2013 lool@AUN. War miyaydan ogayn inuu ninku Jesus ilaah u aaminsanaa? He might have done good things for the poor ppl in his country but still was un-beleiver and we know where unbeleivers belong to .....Jahanama so stop being so naive guys ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 6, 2013 Halyey Chavez was a true geesi,his legacy will live on in Venezuela Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 6, 2013 SomaliPhilosopher;924374 wrote: The doctor has a point. A double standard of praise for Chavez and condemnation of Barre seems to exist. Doctor, I think this double standard can be explained through the fact that the general ideals and values propagated by "Socialist" leaders such as Chavez and Barre are one of which we admire. Though when these leaders nastily infringe on the "rights" of its citizens as a means of consolidating power is when we begin to to turn this admiration to condemnation. As Somalis, we are able to criticize Barre because these infringements have been felt by us or people close to us in essence it is personal whereas the infringements of Chavez is something very distant to us, something that is hard to see or feel. So instead we can only see Chavez in the lens of his values and ideals. There are good dictators and bad dictators as i see it Good dictators Hugo chavez Isaias afewerki Ismael omar geele Robert Mugabe Bad dictators Meles zenawi Muhammad Siyad bare Gadafi Mubarak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted March 6, 2013 You put Mugabe in the list of good and Mubarak, Zenaawi and Gadafa in the list of bad? :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 6, 2013 Mugabe is rageedi, the man is still fighting against European imperialism in his country send back all those English farmers back to their motherland Zimbabwe for Zimbabweans. Gadafi was Mental and very bad for the citizens of Libya that's why they turned out to be savages after he was Killed Mubarak was the biggest Puppet the Americans ever had in Cairo and i still think they miss him Zanawi was also Americas biggest puppet how ever he was very bad for the Ethiopians to, he divided them along ethnic lines Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted March 6, 2013 Great revolutionist he was indeed. Loved by the poor and oppressed, and loathed by the west and its corporate/capitalists. He run for office three times and won it fair and square. If that's a dictatorship, then so be it. Let the western media cry fault as they wish.. RIP El Comandante. Watch John Pilger's "War on Democracy" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
underdog Posted March 6, 2013 I'm more intrigued by the grammatical mistake in the heading for this thread... "....had died"??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted March 6, 2013 Some of his universal ideas will live on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorKenney Posted March 6, 2013 Apophis;924386 wrote: Your uncle, Sam, tortures, imprisons and kills his opponent at will sxb (even under Obama) so spare us the righteous indignation and while you're at it, the hypocrisy too. Chavez opposed "humanitarian intervention" trojan horse and so does all reasoned people. Ps: you're not a neo-con, you're worse; a soulless libertarian. You support Kim Jong Il of North Korea and Hugo Chavez. Even though Kim was responsible for unbelievable atrocities towards his people. You seem to think that any Dictator who opposes the United States is a good Leader. What if the United States didn't exist. Would you still support these disgusting dictators? And then you refer to me as "soulless" Why should I take you seriously? I can't think of ONE reason why I should take you seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted March 6, 2013 underdog;924522 wrote: I'm more intrigued by the grammatical mistake in the heading for this thread... "....had died"??? It irked me as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted March 6, 2013 Apophis;924607 wrote: Kim was loved by his people (something even the western propagandist media could not hide) and Chavez is also loved by his people. This is the only barometer which matters. You're disgusted by Chavez, I'm disgusted by Obama, what? And your ridiculous self aggrandising question deserves no answer. Kim was a monster. Look South of the border to see the benefits on a free market and basic rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites