Hugo Chavez had died

[nuune]

Thanks Doctor, Mr Intelexual, you are right indeed, we are all incapable, except you, now hit the road and bang your head against the wall to make your brainy head more capable!

 

 

Wadani, Hugo gave the poor, treated the poor, gave out to charities, reach out to masaakiinta, debated for the rights of those wronged, in this case, he is more Muslimm than many so called Muslims, now intaa fahan, sxb.

[Wadani]

nuune;924339 wrote:

Wadani

, Hugo gave the poor, treated the poor, gave out to charities, reach out to masaakiinta, debated for the rights of those wronged, in this case, he is more Muslimm than many so called Muslims, now intaa fahan, sxb.

I know, that's y I said it's a sad day for the poor people of venezuela.

[Abu-Salman]

Nobody or few really believe in communism or full collectivisation;

however, dirigism or planning and strong regulations, key strategic industries nationalised or largely state-owned and pervasive social protection as well as spending is what explains largely why Sweden lead in many way including innovation, resisting better the downturn or France has such well educated citizenry with world leading productivity, healthcare or infrastructure (trams, high speed trains etc).

This has been proven to prevent chaotic transports or hospitals, out of control inequalities and crime, ubiquitous corporate malpractice etc and protect small farmers and traders (or labor intensive industries).

State owned land and denying tenure to intensive, polluting farming may makes full sense too (more sustainable, equitable and productive to distribute it to small tenants, not like soviet sovkhozes).

Even USSR witnessed stellar growth in heavy industries despite failure to incentivise, particularly the farmers (and I'm certainely not fond of those models).

 

Focusing on equality & human capital, state owning key industries and planning economic priorities (heavy industries rather than consumer items) can thus be more efficient for a stronger, just society and done in different fashions (Cuba has world leading education, healthcare, scientific achievements...all for much less resources and a long embargo yet with relatively little environmental footprint).

 

PS: all that will not prevent stress or suicide, actually satisfying basic needs leads to other problems;

hence, the spiritual side is even more crucial (thus those socialists are not muslims models despite the achievements).

[Alpha Blondy]

nuune;924339 wrote:

Thanks Doctor, Mr Intelexual, you are right indeed, we are all incapable, except you, now hit the road and bang your head against the wall to make your brainy head more capable!

 

Nuunooooow,

 

let the good Doctor Intelexual be.......he's right...we're all incapable....ma istidhi?

[nuune]

Naga dhaaf dadkaan niyahow, ii warran bal, aduunka maxaa ku soo kordhey ood is leedahay noloshaada ayaa wax ka badalmi doonta, anything, it could be YotaPhone, or anything!

[DoctorKenney]

Alpha Blondy;924345 wrote:

Nuunooooow,

 

let the good Doctor Intelexual be.......he's right...we're all incapable....ma istidhi?

Warya go to sleep. You're annoying

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

good riddance, another useless dictator bites the dust. this country can now hopefully move forward

[Jacpher]

He left behind two billion dollars. So much for a man of the poor masses.

[Somalia]

He was very entertaining but he was Christian how can I say AUN, he must go to hell.

[SomaliPhilosopher]

The doctor has a point. A double standard of praise for Chavez and condemnation of Barre seems to exist. Doctor, I think this double standard can be explained through the fact that the general ideals and values propagated by "Socialist" leaders such as Chavez and Barre are one of which we admire. Though when these leaders nastily infringe on the "rights" of its citizens as a means of consolidating power is when we begin to to turn this admiration to condemnation. As Somalis, we are able to criticize Barre because these infringements have been felt by us or people close to us in essence it is personal whereas the infringements of Chavez is something very distant to us, something that is hard to see or feel. So instead we can only see Chavez in the lens of his values and ideals.

[xabad]

Good riddance. he was a crass, confused rouble rouser who impoverished his country and destroyed its image. socialism = FAIL.

[uchi]

Great loss. AUN

[Haatu]

He was good for the poor, terrible for the economy. I don't believe in too much state intervention in the economy, nor do I like nationalizing big industries so I disagreed with him there but he did many good things. However, under his reign, the country was literally run by the PDVSA or whatever it's called which is a big no no.

[NGONGE]

Apophis;924327 wrote:

A terrible loss. It was only last year that we lost the Dear leader, Kim jong il and now this; very sad indeed.

 

 

Ps: capitalist shills need not reply on this thread. I'm looking at you Dr neo-con.

And Melez. Don't forget Melez who went in almost exactly the same way. But will people cry for Chavez like they did for Melez?

[Tallaabo]

^ The ordinary people will but not the governors. Hugo Chavez helped the poor and the powerless of his country but he also mismanaged Venezuela’s economy as Venezuela now imports most of its food even though it is one of the most fertile countries in the world. Also I hated the way he went to bed with every tyrant in the world.