Somali Government Opposes Kismayo Admin Formation, Alshabaab Gains Political Ground

[xiinfaniin]

Two press releases came out of Mogadishu, badly timed to politicize what was in essence a police work. The prime minister, ignoring months long deliberations, hundreds of delegates gathering in Kismayo university , announced a parallel conference in Xamar. Interior Minister Abdulkarim, denied that he is aware of the effort that has been underway for months, and which UN reports indicated he was informed about and urged government's support of the process.

 

In the mean time Hassan Yacqub of deposed alshabaab announced that renewed insecurity in Kismayo is a sign of alshabaab strength.

 

Today the Somali government sent a ministerial delegate, saying that they will mediate 'parties'. Question is: what would government gain from opposing the formation of the first federal state in the South?

 

Somali analysts agree if the Kismayo admin is not formed fast enough, the situation will benefit Alshabaab greatly.

 

Ina Xaawo

[Tillamook]

Culosow is working hand and glove with Al Shabab. I just hope the people of Jubaland are not too blind to see this, and chase out this so-called interior minister from Kismayu and who is obviously up to no good.

[xiinfaniin]

Clearly his policy approach could be leveraged by alshabaab.

 

He is underestimating the resolve of those who want to form this admin. He created a political situation that either he will look a loser or Kismayo admin will look a loser. I believe the government is now looking a face saving formula , which I could not think of what it would be.

[malistar2012]

Government wants to establish lasting peace , those with guns cannot dictate formation of admin or hold monopoly over the issue.

[xiinfaniin]

The government should work establishing a lasting peace in Mogadishu where hundreds of thousands have been uprooted, or Lowe Shabeele region where those with militia muscle are the dominant political forces in the expense of locals.

 

Kismayo has its owners deciding its fate. It is interesting it became a priority for the this young government. There is a sinister, usc like motive here awoowe, and a transparent one indeed.

 

It will not work.

[Raamsade]

Odeygii Xiinfaniin Kismaayo ayuu ayaamahan ku khafiifey. Waraa Xiin, waxaan waa cadaalad-darro. Had iyo jeer waxaad farta ku fiiqdaa Xamar. Aaway eedeynta dhinacaada mudunyihiin? Dadkaan Jubbaland la hor ordaya, ayaga eedeyn ma laha? Waxba ku ma khaldana? Ta wax caqligal ah ma tahay?

[xiinfaniin]

Adeer eedayn cidlaa anigu ma aqaan, meesha rag ba hadda jooga dadaal dheer bayna ku bixiyeen inay dadkii degaanka isku keenaan waana ku guulaysteen ilaa xad. Meesha laga qayshaa waa xamar , oo dhulkaan iyo dadkaan dhib weyn hore ugu geystay oo weli dhaawacyadoodii cusub yihiin, maanta leadership kii soomaliyeed hayya. Caqliyadda meesha ka muuqataaa waa tii Abwaan iyo adiga oo kale mana shaqaynaysano ...marka niman dawladnima raba uma ekedina mindhaa nabadda unisom baabad dhibsateenna , hadde caano halaga maalo. Kismayada aad kusoo ordaysaan Afgooye, Marka, iyo Baraawe baa kasokeysa, aawaye?

 

Kismayo Ahmed Diiriye talo ku yaalan maayo, ee Dawladdu dawlad ha noqoto oo waxa mudnaanta leh iyo waxa ciriiriga ah hakala garato, ama odoyaasha Xaad iyo Ahmed Diiriye talada haka qaadato, simple as that.

[malistar2012]

We need diverse administration in jubba sxb, kismayo is key city numerous factions previously tried form dominanted admin. Those that riding Kenyan wagon cannot form one sided administration. Anyways Kenyams are in control , and will facilitate government demands. The PM is not USC stop cheap propaganda..

[Raamsade]

Xiin, wallee iyo billee waa isku dhexyaacdey. Sxb, Jubbooyinka ma aha Bari ama Mudug oo hal ama labbo reer kili dagaan. Jubbooyinka, sida Koonfurta Somalia wixii ka hooseeya Hiiraan iyo Sh. Dhexe, waa dhul Somali oo idil degto. Sidaa awgeed ma fududa sidee maamul taliswadaag ah loogu dhiso maxaayeelay Somalida iskuma kalsoona. Hadda eeg kuwa hor boodaya, u sacab tumaya, u ololeynaya Jubbaland... yeey yihiin kuwaa? Ma dadka Jubooyinka degaa oo dhan mise hal beel kili? Haddii ee tahay hal beel kili, maxee beeshaas kaga duwantahay kuwii shallay ku dagaalami jirey?

 

Jubbaland ma oofi doonto sababtana ma aha dhantaal Rer USC hurinayaan ee waa maamul xaqdarro ku saleysan. In nin ku yimid Bari, Mudug, Galguduud, Somali Galbeed ama NFD ka taliyo Kismaayo waa habeenkii xalay ahaa oo tegey. Iska illow sxb arrintaa ma hagaageyso. Taliswadaagnimo (Federalism) waligeed ka ma hirgeli doonto Koonfurta Somalia. Dhululkaas waxee u baahanyihiin maamulo dowlada dhexe u sameyso. Ama diid ama yeel, ta adee ku taal. Lakin haddii runta ka weecano, wax kasta aa isku sheegi karnaa.

[xiinfaniin]

^^ :D

 

Waryaa Raamsade oo orod soo tuko salaadii duhur baa joogtee

[Raamsade]

Xiin, sxb weesadee aaba iga jabtey markii aan akhriyey threadkan bismillah!

[xiinfaniin]

^^Raamsade,

 

I understand the background noise USC folks are making. It is NOT thate Kismayo is complicated or unfit for federalism. It is rather USC elites like yourself feel that federalism disadvantages them in terms of Somalia's political balance. This effort from Mogadishu is primarily to show that federalism is unworkable framework and therefore shall never be implemented in the south. You dont think the last 18 regions former Barre regime left for Somalia is balanced. You dont think the 1960 8 region map is fair. You want to reshape Somalia with a rebel like intent and redraw its maps. You had twenty years to scribble your thoughts, waxaad jeclaatay macno waa sameyn waayeen.

 

And so the road map came. You agreed to it, but now it seems you are having second thoughts. That, in a nutshell, is what Kismayo argument is all about: a confused stakeholder in Mogadishu who does not understand what settlement, compromise, and agreements mean.

 

This time though, even my self is convinced, that if Federalism fails, Somalia requires a drastic, and dramatic political solution.

[Abu-wehliye]

al-Shabaab maalinba maalinta ka danbeeysey dhul ayaa lagala wareegayey intii Muqdishu laga soo saarey, ilamana ahan in reer Jubaland ay fursad kale siinayaan, khilaafaadka wey iska dhamaan doonaan ee si wada jir ah haloo wada hadlo...riixriixida badana haleyska daayo

[Raamsade]

Xiin, there is no doubt some members of USC clan feel Federalism disadvantages them but my opposition to Federalism is more fundamental. I don't believe it is the right solution for Somalis. Federalism will lead to a farce like the 1969 elections which witnessed some 100different political parties competing. The parties were fashioned along sub-sub-sub clan lines... it was complete and utter chaos. The same will happen with federalism. You will have one thousand and one different mini sub-clan states masquerading as federal states. How does that bring Somalis together.

 

The alternative and the only workable solution to Somalia's political qaugmire is strong central government. A strong and capable central government, one that represents all Somalis, is all that Somalis are missing. The reason is this: the whole Federalism rigamorle is predicated on a false premise, namely that there are irreconcialable political (clan) differences between Somalis. We know that is not true. How did Alshabab hold on to Kismaayo for nearly 5 years?! How come we didn't hear about Kismaayo being "occupied" by rer hebel during Alshabaab's reign but we only hear that when Alshabaab vacated the premises? The reign of Alshabaab shows that what Somalis are yearning is a government that provides security, stability and justice.

 

Going back to those who are against Federalism for qabiil reasons, what is wrong with that? If some clans feel federalism will disenfranchise them, isn't that an argument against federalism? Why should we accept federalism that only works for some but not for all? Don't tell me you honestly believe Somalis have agreed to abide by federalism framework because they haven't.

 

Your problem is you're trying to square a circle and when you realize that you can't square a circle, you blame it on the federal government. The federal government in Xamar is toothless and has no say in what happens in Kismaayo. Hell, it can't even control Afgooye without AMISOM. Your madness is such that you now see the federal government composed of all Somali clans as exclusively USC clan government. Talk about madness.

[N.O.R.F]

Can someone give an objective piece on what is going on?