Carafaat Posted February 21, 2013 Haatu;920496 wrote: Ideally yes but that would be suicide realistically speaking. By going our separate ways and each group deciding our own affairs, we only stand to get closer over time. It's land, resources and power that's dividing us at the moment, by giving each group just that, there'll be no more reason to hate each other. Well, wouldnt you then say Somaliland is in a ideal situation.. : D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted February 21, 2013 xiinfaniin;920497 wrote: Federalism is the future. To live in Somalia, one needs to accept that reality. and it should start with you, ma istidhi? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted February 21, 2013 Carafaat;920500 wrote: Well, wouldnt you then say Somaliland is in a ideal situation.. : D Not really, there are large groups of S/land that are unhappy. I would devolve power even further. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted February 21, 2013 Haatu;920509 wrote: Not really, there are large groups of S/land that are unhappy. I would devolve power even further. Happyness is not a good indicator for peoples preference of governance system, but bullets are. So unless a great portion or majority of population pick guns against the Goverment dont expect that goverment to lift itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted February 21, 2013 Bullets? Why take it that far? And ofc the government won't lift itself, another power/entity is needed before that happens, but I seriously believe the devolution of the power is the way to go, but to straight down to the regions themselves. These states are too big in my opinion and hinder the transfer of power to the people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted February 21, 2013 Haatu, give me an example of an African goverment that has desolved itself without any bullets? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raamsade Posted February 21, 2013 Che, ninyahow waxaan waa hypocrisy. You were dismissive of Keydmedia when they posted unflattery videos of your tolka. Now you're citing them. War iskuma xishootid? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 22, 2013 ^Keydmedia posts a heavily edited videos meant to revise history. That includes this video. Now if you disagree with that assertion, then great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted February 22, 2013 An interesting video, to say the least. However, the video makes far more sense to Somalilanders than to those not familiar with the internal dynamics of the region. The video definitely predates the Borama Shir, and seems to also predate the declaration of Somaliland in Burco (since none of the participants mention that significant development). It's a testament to the Somaliland hybrid political system that several of those Awdal military officials from the former military regime were incorporated into successive Somaliland administrations (irrespective of their clan-related insecurities at the time of the video). P.S. I appreciated the honesty of the General at the beginning (second to speak), that he along with other Awdal elites were used by the dictator to suppress the larger clan in the region... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khadafi Posted February 22, 2013 xiinfaniin;920497 wrote: Federalism is the future. To live in Somalia, one needs to accept that reality. Xiin, you need to elobrate, If its the future whats federalism in its somali meaning? 20 clan states and another 20 more wanting to become clan states? Noo sharax adeer.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted February 22, 2013 Che -Guevara;920556 wrote: ^Keydmedia posts a heavily edited videos meant to revise history. That includes this video. Now if you disagree with that assertion, then great. Who says this video or the other ones are revising history? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted February 22, 2013 Carafaat;920678 wrote: Who says this video or the other ones are revising history? The guy claimed Caydiid was a misunderstood wadani. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites