Che -Guevara Posted February 21, 2013 " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Check minute 10.20 It seems people have been saying the same thing when federalism was first mentioned in the 60s, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 21, 2013 In a lot ways, nothing has changed. Check 20.30. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted February 21, 2013 The guy at the 10 minute looks like a Somali Cornel West Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted February 21, 2013 I sort of agree with them. Power should be devolved regionally, even further than the current framework of 'states'. Case in example S/land. The reer Awdalites are unhappy, Duriyadda itself is not on the best of terms & SSC is still grumbling. By doing away with these phony states and devolving their powers to the regions then most of the destructive competition and disagreements we see today would disappear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 21, 2013 I guess states are good start though not the best option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted February 21, 2013 the hell with federalism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted February 21, 2013 oba hiloowlow;920369 wrote: the hell with federalism. That is treason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted February 21, 2013 oba hiloowlow;920369 wrote: the hell with federalism. at least the clan-federalism, realistic regional one is acceptable I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted February 21, 2013 Haatu;920352 wrote: I sort of agree with them. Power should be devolved regionally, even further than the current framework of 'states'. Case in example S/land. The reer Awdalites are unhappy, Duriyadda itself is not on the best of terms & SSC is still grumbling. By doing away with these phony states and devolving their powers to the regions then most of the destructive competition and disagreements we see today would disappear. You want Somaliland to become another North Eastern. Where Somalis clan are competing and battling eachother without having a political platform that brings them together and serves their interest against Nairobi. Divide and rule iga dheh. Typical Kikuyu buttler! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted February 21, 2013 Abwaan;920403 wrote: at least the clan-federalism, realistic regional one is acceptable I guess. the only one time i will support is if somalia is consisting of 2 federal states, Brittish Somaliland and Italian Somaliland.waakaa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted February 21, 2013 oba hiloowlow;920423 wrote: the only one time i will support is if somalia is consisting of 2 federal states, Brittish Somaliland and Italian Somaliland.waakaa That is a bit unfair eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted February 21, 2013 Carafaat;920411 wrote: You want Somaliland to become another North Eastern. Where Somalis clan are competing and battling eachother without having a political platform that brings them together and serves their interest against Nairobi. Divide and rule iga dheh. Typical Kikuyu buttler! The Somalis are competing and battling each other because that is their nature and their way, same as your clan the SNM and the Awdalites are competing against each other today and just as the tribes of the of the Jubba are also competing. The political platform that shall bring all these groups together is Xamar; they handle their regional affairs and Xamar handles the country as a whole. As for Reer NE, don't concern yourself with them. They are a people that are finally working to improve their region despite the obstacles set against them by Nairobi. They have at last achieved some semblance of autonomy and the only way now is up. Idinka reer Soomaaliya yaanan la idin dhaafin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted February 21, 2013 Haatu, wouldnt you want unity and one goverment for the Somalis Province in Kenya? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted February 21, 2013 Ideally yes but that would be suicide realistically speaking. By going our separate ways and each group deciding our own affairs, we only stand to get closer over time. It's land, resources and power that's dividing us at the moment, by giving each group just that, there'll be no more reason to hate each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted February 21, 2013 Federalism is the future. To live in Somalia, one needs to accept that reality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites