QansaxMeygaag Posted January 17, 2013 Rather long read, but do we agree on the meaning of Somalinimo? We seem to take it for granted. What does it mean to be Somali? http://wardheernews.com/Articles_08/December/Somalia_Can_Survive.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 17, 2013 Somalinimo means for me to give a Somali lady with lots grocery a lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted January 17, 2013 And my somalinimo is markaad taa yar gurigeeda horteeda ku dejiso kuwa jardiinada u sii suga inaan noqdo ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaraadMon Posted January 17, 2013 That's a good question, especially for those in the diaspora. Besides crashing weddings and exchanging awkward glances in public, what ties us together? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted January 17, 2013 U lack the most important tie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted January 17, 2013 I didn't read the piece but I think Somalinimo ain't as significant to me as wadaninimo. We need a strong wadaniyad to see Somalinimo. I can say we lack wadaninimo, for the most part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 17, 2013 Jacpher;909247 wrote: I didn't read the piece but I think Somalinimo ain't as significant to me as wadaninimo. We need a strong wadaniyad to see Somalinimo. I can say we lack wadaninimo, for the most part. Which country wadanimo is about nationalism Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaraadMon Posted January 17, 2013 Wadani;909246 wrote: U lack the most important tie. Not really. There are plenty of irreligous Somalis around. I can count 5 amongst my first cousins alone. Also, we're not an ethno-religous group so that can't be it, unless Oromo Muslims are considered to be our kin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted January 17, 2013 Irreligious as in believers who do not practise, or as in non-believers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaraadMon Posted January 17, 2013 Wadani;909265 wrote: Irreligious as in believers who do not practise, or as in non-believers? They consider themselves to be 'cultural-Muslims'. They'll attend family functions such as weddings and eid celebrations (as do I). I wonder if it's a genetic thing as it's all on my father's side of tree, which is where I can also find the the not-too-distant Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted January 17, 2013 I undersand that to mean they r non-believers in the Quran, hadith etc, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaraadMon Posted January 17, 2013 Wadani;909271 wrote: I undersand that to mean they r non-believers in the Quran, hadith etc, right? Pretty much. Although they choose to not tell others about their disbelief, they've said things in my presence that they wouldn't say in front of Muslims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted January 17, 2013 Can't say im surprised. I know there are penty of nonbelievers within the somali community who choose to continue living as 'Muslims' just to avoid the inevitable consequences of coming out with their gaalnimo. Too bad for them though, cuz their living a lie in this world, and will have no share in the afterlife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 17, 2013 I just finished reading the article the guy went on and on about foreign interference's which might be the case , but the notion of Somalinimo and how he applies it as a solution is far from the truth. The author describes Imam Ahmed Ibrahim Al ghazi struggle as one the Somalis were defending Somalinimo against the Ethiopian, which is not true. Imam Ahmed and the conquest of the Abyssinians was strictly an Islamic Jihaad had little to do with Somalinimo.juqatiluna fi sabililaah. The Imam was not fighting for Somali galbeed at that time the Somalis haven't even fully moved in those area's. Allthough the vast majority of the Imams army were Somalis, but there were also afar Muslims Muslim Shewians Arabs hararians Gurage Muslims and even Turks. There was never a Political Somalism struggle or a Somali empire it was mere a experiment in the early 60s and mid 70s. Somalinimo if you ask me has little to do with Politics more with culture and traditions songs poetry. So people need to really redefine what they mean when they say Somalinimo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted January 17, 2013 Xaaji ur right, Soomaalinimo need not be intertwined with politics. I feel the same brotherhood with Somalis from all the 5 somali inhabited regions of the horn, despite the differnces in politcs and borders. Thats y i never understood y a lot of somalis like to call Somalilanders 'soomaalidiid's', as if our politcal divorce with Somalia removes our ethnicity and soomaali heritage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites