Arabic readers: The History of Slavery in Saudi Arabia

[Alpha Blondy]

i'm trying to be intellectual but i don't have a clue mate.

 

what does 'nasab' mean? i'd imagine it to be like having an 'identity crisis'....?

[NGONGE]

^^^

 

Alpha Blondy;908827 wrote:

arabs are the worst type of colonisers. they eat away at your brain.

 

these arabised slaves

can't even count up to their 5th grandfather

and they have the nerve to bother you at Dubai airport.

 

uskag fooqal uskag.

It means the bit I qouted in bold there.

[Wadani]

Alpha If someone is considered 'nasab' that means he is of the nobility within his society by virtue of birth and not neccessarily by merit.

[nuune]

Alpha knows what Laangaab means but not what Nasab or Laandheer mean.

[NGONGE]

^^ War he knows dee. Wuu is waalaya, which is why I quoted his own words back at him.

[Alpha Blondy]

NGONGE;908881 wrote:

^^^

 

 

 

It means the bit I qouted in bold there.

oh right. thanks for the clarification. it shouldnt bother them really. identity is constructed and not biological.

 

i'm quite certain there are a few illegitimates in my long left tribal lineage. i count about 23 to the MAN. but there are also some small leaves clans within the wider tribal coalition, which have developed as some type of protection rackets. they call them 'danwanaag'. i don't think its particularly fair we pay their 'qaadhan'at a disproportionate rate.

[NGONGE]

^^ Back then, it did not matter if they were illegitimates. Safety was in numbers.

[Wadani]

I not so sure about nasab-ness being directly correlated with laandheernimo. I come from a very nasab subclan within the duriyadda, yet I don't count that many names back to the Old man. It's like 16 names. What does this mean for me and the future of my kids????

[Alpha Blondy]

but its all about authenticity.....and a sense of belonging, i suppose. but where does one draw the line.

 

i guess as the popular adage goes 'a dog born in a kennel is still a dog''.

 

you have remain proud of what you are? irrespective of what others say about you.

[nuune]

Alpha,if we follow your logic there about the dog, then you are an automatic shinbir sxb, in this case, a qooleey, what that means is that maba abtirsan kartid, and that results of you being unknown to the masses, so what shal we call you, I don't mean to hurt you, sxb, but you don't strike me the guy oo abtirsan karo illaa 30 awoow gaarsiin karo or as far as Nabi Nuux or Nabi Idriis, well for those who can do that doesn't mean they are automatically being verfied since anyone can master the names, but when you are doing the abtirsi, you do it with a well known men who will know who your great men of awoowayaal were, so it is not simple, just be your qooleey sxb, a shimbir in this case, anigu I am already Mulac, and I love it

[Alpha Blondy]

nuune;908894 wrote:

Alpha,if we follow your logic there about the dog, then you are an automatic shinbir sxb, in this case, a qooleey, what that means is that maba abtirsan kartid, and that results of you being unknown to the masses, so what shal we call you, I don't mean to hurt you, sxb, but you don't strike me the guy oo abtirsan karo illaa 30 awoow gaarsiin karo or as far as Nabi Nuux or Nabi Idriis, well for those who can do that doesn't mean they are automatically being verfied since anyone can master the names, but when you are doing the abtirsi, you do it with a well known men who will know who your great men of awoowayaal were, so it is not simple, just be your qooleey sxb, a shimbir in this case, anigu I am already Mulac, and I love it

 

Nuune,

 

you may have a shaky sense of being and can continue being a mulac but please don't attempt to question my absolute claim.

 

average life expectancy has increased these days but assuming we use a mean average of about 55 years per oday.

 

55 x 23 = 1265

 

1265 - 2013 = 748

 

around the years 730 to 950, there were massive influxes of immigrants from the city of Basra in modern day Iraq, to what is known these days as the Horn of Africa. my original ancestors were the marsh black arabised folks who emigrated to the Horn after years of abuse at the hands of local Persian islamist zealots.

[oba hiloowlow]

NGONGE;908871 wrote:

This "nasab" obsession played a huge part back then. Or else, why would the Arabs buy a dark Sudanese man from another DARK Sudanese man or an Ethiopian from a Somali?

 

In addition, the slavery was not limited to black people. There were also slaves from Iran, Syria, Indonesia and other parts of Asia. Furthermore, there was some occassions where a slave was freed becuase he/she proved their "nasab". So, although the bragging is pointless today, there is an element of truth to the nasab argument.

 

 

Hade NG the only reason somalis were 'nasab' was the fact that somalis were Muslims otherwise we would've been enslaved as well

[Wadani]

^ lol, do u honestly believe that? Cajiib. Waar Carabtaa anaga dirqii nagaga baxsatay, markasaad ku leedahay wayna cabiidsan gaadheen. People don't realize how fierce and independent the nomads of the past were, and many still continue to be.

[oba hiloowlow]

lool@ wadani horta waa run this ugandan sergeant with the british forces once said ''Somalis, Bwana, they no good: each man his own sultan.''

[Wadani]

That Ugandan was on the mark.