maakhiri1 Posted July 18, 2022 Unity is always good, Somalis are too fractured, like onion thru tribalism, peeling off, layer after, layer, if Cagdheer unite, it is a good thing, they can even afford to send 1 million or 2 people across the border from Kenya or Ethiopia, At this rate, next president is coming from them. Congrats and keep it up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted July 18, 2022 5 hours ago, The Zack said: After all, Xiin was coorect. The man made these predictions 9 years ago and man, he was on the spot! Isn't this Zack guy the one, few years ago around 2019, asking MMA to keep the accounts of Abtigiis in private since he no longer here? And now he is digging the posts of Abtigiis. Yes, our OG friends had gained politically and they deserve to be the premier of Somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted July 18, 2022 Maakhiri Do not you think Khaatumo and Maakhir unite to create a new federal state with access to Red Sea and our Awdal good friends follow suit later. I do not understand why many maakhir people are still pro putland. Even with economic benefits the tribal borders that putland is based on will not work in the long run. Even Mudig must to go one side. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted July 18, 2022 Duufaan. Somalia is still ruled by those who destroyed the state. And their incompetence has no bounds. Remember for 14 years from 1991--2005, there was no Al-shabaab, Yet the anarchy and the oligarchy prospered side by side. Puntland , the most mature federal state is celebrating 25 years next year and there is no functioning institutions or even basic election to elect mayors.. Boosaaso is in decline due to the top leadership who exchanged the port for crumbs, but Garowe is fine since it is the main hub for the NGO and the ruling class. Galmudug is is a battle ground for Al-shabaab, Ehlu Sunah and the guy running few militia and zero government operations. Hir-Shabele is based in Mogadishu, and KG and Jubbaland are both one city states, Baidoa and Kismayo. If Sool and Sanaag team up and ditch Garoowe and the Hargeisa rule, the sky is the limit. We all know the status quo doesn't work anymore. There is no such thing as D block, Habro or even HAG. The enclave projects have run their course. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted July 18, 2022 @Abtigiis is the leader of the Somali Region in Ethiopia. Xiinfaniin is a Federal Minister. Wow. Legends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qurac&qansax Posted July 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Duufaan said: Do not you think Khaatumo and Maakhir unite to create a new federal state with access to Red Sea and our Awdal good friends Khaatumo is too divided and weak, and Maakhiri can not do it by themselves. Awdali and Maakhiri could have but they dont have share location. The status quo will continue. Khaatumo in ta ay isku dhararinayaand MJ, they not going to get any where. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qurac&qansax Posted July 18, 2022 the longest state president, Madoobe, time is coming to end soon. Waxaad moodaa in Madaxweyne Axmed caleentiisii Siyaasadu Cirka kasoo dhacday. 1. Hamsa iyo Madoobe waa reer ahaan dad aad iskugu dhow, reerkii Og ta madoobe waa ku soo jeesteen, in beeshiisu ay san isku haysan karin Labada darajo ee sare, oo halkaas Ogtii garabkii uu kawada haystay waa kala jabay. 2. Kenya is badal bay rabaan, becaue weli xududii sidii aya khata ugu jirtaa , qofkale oo reerka Og ta ayay rabaan ay uga guuraan Madoobe 3. Deni iyo Madoobe oo sii kala fogaanaya, Waxaa soo baxaya in Deni uu san baryahaan ka jawaabaynin Tele Madoobe. 4. Kenya iyo HSM waxay ku heshiiyeen in Madoobe tago. Madoobe wuxuu rabay in intii HSM joogay Nairobi in uu tago, balse kenya baa diiday. Hasan wuxuu uga baxay Madoobe in Wasiirka Amniga JL oo kasoo jeeda Gedo laga dhigo Talyaha Ciidamada Xooga ee Fadaraalka si uu Axmed Madoobe uga caawiyo arinka Gedo. 5. Waa Reer Gedo oo isku afgashtay Axmed oo taga mooyee in aysan wax wada hadal ah gelin. Xildhibaanadii kasoo baxay Ceel-waaq ee reer Gedo shir ay uqabteen Waxgarad,Siyaasiyiin iyo Ganacsato waxay usheegeen in aysan Axmed ku xirnayn ee ay utaagan yihiin qadiyada reer Gedo waxa kaliya ee marana ay tahay…’Axmed oo xaqiijiya in uusan mar danbe isa soo sharaxayn doorashadana xiligeeda ku qabta”. 6. Ethopia waxay HSM ka rabaan in Gedo aan faragelin lagu sameen ee ay u dayaan dadkii Farmaajo uga tagay. Gobalku in uu sidiisa ahaado oo aan wax isbadal maamul iyo amni ah lagu samayn,ayaa laysku raacay. Dowlada Xasan iyo Maamulayaashii Gobolka xiligii F&F waxay isku afgarteen in aan Axmed madoobe lagu wareejin Gobolka. Madoobe, awal wuxuu la dagaalamay laba group waa Gedo, Ethopia iyo Federal. Wuxuuna support ween ka haystay Puntland, Kenya iyo reerka Ogta. Hada waxaad moodaa supportigii uu haystay in ay meesha ka baxayso oo waraabuhu banaanka ku cunayaan. Hamsa uma eka nin yac ka dhihi kara Ahmed waxa kaliya oo caawinaya lama hayo qof Og ta ah oo Axmed badali kara oo lagu aamini karo Jubaland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted July 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Qurac&qansax said: . The status quo will continue. Just make a meaningless long story short. You want the status quo to continue. Too bad nothing is permanent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted July 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Duufaan said: Maakhiri Do not you think Khaatumo and Maakhir unite to create a new federal state with access to Red Sea and our Awdal good friends follow suit later. I do not understand why many maakhir people are still pro putland. Even with economic benefits the tribal borders that putland is based on will not work in the long run. Even Mudig must to go one side. Territorial collaboration and integration is not only a matter of communal affinity (clan relations), but economy, geography and mobility plays an important role as well. There are no road connections between Sanaag and Sool, and hardly any economic linkages between the two. Sool is more connected to Toghdheer and Nugaal(Garowe) economically, whereas Eastern Sanaag is connected to western-Sanaag(Erigavo) and Bari(Bosasso). This also goes for movement of people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted July 18, 2022 Well things have changed. The past nine years tplf is gone ileeey is in jail abitigis is the new land lord of jijiga. And he seems to have warm relations the new pm we yet have to see how he builds his cabinet. as for sool and sanaag are now fully integral part of the Somaliland republic they are happy they have registraties two origanisation and one is likely becoming the new party in somaliland run by a fellow from laaacanood a former deputy of the Hass patrolium company so it looks very promising Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted July 18, 2022 The O community has indeed become a major political player in the region, for a long time they were politically on the fringes determined by their position on the peripheries of the Somali territory. But as the region is becoming more interconnected and integrated it is an advantage and opportunity for those on the outer edges. However, as one still needs to leave a political stamp on the region, I am wondering if their politics will be characterised by building bridges between peoples or one of trampling people under their 🦶. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted July 18, 2022 I was trying to respond to the putland people like Arafat and then Xaaji came with his Somaliland republic agenda. We never got along well working with pro-colonial regions and their maintaining status quo systems. We definitely welcome the new federal system but we are too many and live in the larger region. A new, open, and prosperous Somalia free from colonial games that support different groups to divide the Somali people is what is desired. Og one of the largest Somali communities was one time marginalized. At one point in time, Both Putland and Somaliland were arresting any Og male in their regions and sending them to Zenawi. Both Riyaale and Faroole were doing that, we gave them protection and support, even on the war front. They changed the game, they made deals with their occupiers and their situation changed for the better in every place they lived. Both the Ethiopian and Kenyan passports are accessible to all Somalis these days if needed. Rather than desiring to maintain the status quo you should open your mind and bring interesting solutions for all Somalis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qurac&qansax Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Duufaan said: At one point in time, Both Putland and Somaliland were arresting any Og male in their regions and sending them to Zenawi. Both Riyaale and Faroole were doing that it is intersting to see, you mentioning the one you do not have evidence for it, and ignoring the one we know it happend that is Farmaajo sending Og male to Ethiopia for arrest. Naceeb waa waxa adiga iyo dadkaaga meeshaas dhigay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted July 18, 2022 20 hours ago, Duufaan said: Maakhiri Do not you think Khaatumo and Maakhir unite to create a new federal state with access to Red Sea and our Awdal good friends follow suit later. I do not understand why many maakhir people are still pro putland. Even with economic benefits the tribal borders that putland is based on will not work in the long run. Even Mudig must to go one side. Bro it is possible walaahi, but PL geed gaaban iyo mid dheer, waxay ugu fadhidaa dadkan masiirkooda in maamusho, wax badana Waa ku cayshtey. Dad aan Rabi iyo Rag aqoon baa wax ku darsaney, we were together before PL formed, anyways honest leader from this region bay rabtaa, iyo in la iska leexsho issimada hunguriga badan, oo godka ku haya. No rush, needs grass root movement . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted July 18, 2022 What is this colonial thing u are taking about are u against colonial border if that’s is the case u should be against all Africa. Colonial border and start with the Kenyan Somalia border created by the brits and the Italian called the Anglo Italian border but u will not for u are hypocrite and we know this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites