N.O.R.F Posted December 11, 2012 A country in transition. I think the Prince explains quite well the challenges Saudi society faces and how they're dealing with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted December 11, 2012 Sacuudi carabiya waligood nin iyo naag uun bay kala ilaalin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marksman Posted December 11, 2012 Somalia today is also a very conservative and patriarchal society. Let's not pretend our society hasn't changed. Just an example, a woman walking around without a hijab in Mogadishu is not accepted. Even 4 year old girls are wearing it. Or am I wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted December 11, 2012 What's odd about ladies wearing hijab? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marksman Posted December 11, 2012 Nothing odd about it. I'm trying to showcase the conservativeness that Somalis have in common with Saudis as it's everyone that is wearing it. I wonder what you think of my statement then. That it is not accepted for women not to walk without a hijab in Mogadishu. (let alone any other Somali city). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted December 11, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;897916 wrote: Sacuudi carabiya waligood nin iyo naag uun bay kala ilaalin. Xaaji, meeshu wee kulushahay. adigu maad isku si deyn leheed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted December 11, 2012 Carafaat naag doonta iyo nin doonta reer sacuudi carabiya haday shabakad ku xidhi kari lahayeen wa ku xidhi lahayeen. These people go against mother nature. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nin-Yaaban Posted December 12, 2012 Sacuudiga waa dad yaab leh walle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalicentric Posted December 12, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;897916 wrote: Sacuudi carabiya waligood nin iyo naag uun bay kala ilaalin. I legit giggled on that So upholding social norms/constructs are more important than rights for women and what the Quran actually teaches?! Interesting video, the prince is rather passive aggressive with his responses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted December 12, 2012 Marksman;897981 wrote: Nothing odd about it. I'm trying to showcase the conservativeness that Somalis have in common with Saudis as it's everyone that is wearing it. I wonder what you think of my statement then. That it is not accepted for women not to walk without a hijab in Mogadishu. (let alone any other Somali city). After the war Somalis became more conservative because they experience first hand the realities of life and realized how short our stay in this world is. As for your question, forget other women I would never let my mum or sisters leave the house without a hijab (not niqab but headscarf) on and bring shame to my name. I'm a Muslim and I find no fault in my religion nor its practices. I also feel no compulsion to appease non-Muslims nor do I feel inclined to adopt their ways or customs. As for the video, most of the problems Saudi Arabia has is more cultural rather than religious. One classic example is the female driving ban. Nothing in Islam prevents a women from driving, in fact hordes of scholars have said that it causes more harm than benefit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted December 12, 2012 Because in the Day of Judgement, Muslims believe that yes, the females will also be responsible for their own actions, but their male guardians or walees will also be held accountable. In this issue, we're oil and water sxb. I can tell you we won't see eye to eye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted December 12, 2012 When I say that of course I won't physically restrain them, that's abuse. But I will not sit around and watch also. But this will never happen, we're a God fearing folk It's also a thing of honour. Imagine the comments I'll get from Cali and Xasan and claims that my sisters are 'loose'. God forbid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted December 12, 2012 ^^ Schoolboy error there, Apo. You should have walked away as soon as you saw Xasan and Cali walking over. I can see a big, offensive and open goal for anybody with the inclination to wound you there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted December 12, 2012 Apophlclytic, Gaalyahow ka dhax bax ummada oo hooyooyinka aflagaadada ka daa, kurkaan kaa goyn gaastariigyahow u gaajeysan siduu Muslimiinta iyo islamka u caayi lahaa, orodoo caabud NOTHING iyo baabah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted December 12, 2012 ^^ Wakaaaaaaaaaa! Welcome back, nuune. Waxaan maqlay you got married and have two baby jinns now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites