oba hiloowlow Posted December 1, 2012 The Zack;894870 wrote: Xiin, this is a good development, thanks for sharing! Lol@some of the comments. These train has started moving, get out the way or your *** will be run over. Jubbaland for Reer Jubooyinka! I am happy for them, are u? Why are u not happy for them? LOL come one North, Oba, and Abwaan be happy for your brothers in Juba! why are you including my name in this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted December 1, 2012 More news for Xiin -----> http://www.allgedo.com/2012/11/29/odayaaha-dhaqanka-beesha-****-ee-muqdisho-oo-maanta-war-saxaaadeed-ay-muqdisho-ku-qabteen-ku-cadeeyay-mowqifkooda-ku-wajahan-maamul-u-sameynta-gobolada-jubbooyinka-dhageyso/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted December 1, 2012 xiinfaniin;894878 wrote: As for our old friend Sharif Xasan and his effort to play Ethiopia's bid, contingencies are in place. At worst he will try claiming Gedo region for his ilk, which will have a unifying affect on the 'Jubba community', or he will likely end up awakening president Hassan's nightmare scenario, putting Marka in Baydhabo's column. In the chess parlance, the King is well entrenched and the Queen is inching ever closer to declare a checkmate awoowe. Xabaddaa noo daran ninyahow waanad ogtahay, waxaani waa howsheennii Xiinoow, sheekadan wee kugu baxday ma istiri? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 1, 2012 xiinfaniin;894797 wrote: Once formed, Jubaland will join states like Puntland to form part of the new Federal Republic of Somalia. (Rihanna): Got everybody watchin what I do Come walk in my shoes And see the way I'm livin if you really want to Got my mind on my money And I'm not goin nowhere So keep on gettin your paper And keep on climbing Look in the mirror and keep on shining Till the game ends, till the clock stops We gon' post up on the top spot Livin the life, the life In a brand new city got my whole team with me The life, my life I do what I wanna do I'm livin my life, my life I will never lose, I'm livin my life, my life And I'm not stopping Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahima Posted December 1, 2012 Che -Guevara;894855 wrote: It seems we are forming countries within country. We are and anytime concerns are raised about this road we are taking you get hit with accusations of being against Xland. To me this interpretation/implementation of Federalism is nothing more than a rebranding of the clan divisions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted December 1, 2012 Federalism it self would have not been such a bad idea if it wasn't purely based on tribal homeland, what we now get is lets all have our own autonomous state free from the influence of the federal government. The successes and failures of clan federalism we yet haven't practiced it. Clan federalism is just a continuation of the 4.5 this time we are just building and organizing states based on pure clan representation. If people started building states based on regionalism despite of the clan differences that would be a better idea. Federalism is simply a form of governance for people with some diversities but yet belong to the same nation. Its massively a decentralized system of administrating the country. The objectives of such a system is that it reduces the direct government involvement in sub regional state affairs and it enhances local responsibility for development initiatives. In Somalia we see a whole different form of interpretation of federalism for Somalis its my tribal homeland i am the decision maker and if you are against my vision of federalism you're violating the constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 1, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;894963 wrote: In Somalia we see a whole different form of interpretation of federalism for Somalis its my tribal homeland i am the decision maker and if you are against my vision of federalism you're violating the constitution. Exactly, it violates the constitution. We want to become a nation with law and order, so we must abide by the rules. There will be no naysayers, if you don't want federalism, then don't, it's voluntary my friend. Anyway, the days where we argue about federalism are over. Now we should look at Jubbaland, will be it a smooth home grown conference or not, that is the question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted December 1, 2012 horta why are somalia and the PL crew pretending to care about jubbaland? its hypocrisy yesterday you guys where shipping ONLF mujaahidens to melez. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayaani Posted December 1, 2012 Che -Guevara;894890 wrote: I am suspicious of any process that brings Abtigiis, Xiin and Gabbal together. Abwaan...It's process fraught with alot dangers for sure. Abdtigiis ,Xiin iyo Gabbal are unholy allies just for temporary. They appear to be same boat but their bitter rivalry dooms entire ill thought project. Just give them time you hear Somali tribe’s favorite battle cry slogan “waa nala qadiyay” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 1, 2012 oba hiloowlow;894970 wrote: horta why are somalia and the PL crew pretending to care about jubbaland? its hypocrisy yesterday you guys where shipping ONLF mujaahidens to melez. How is that hypocritical, is Jubbaland equal to ONLF? Maybe your new idol Xasan Sheikh explained that to the Ethiopians this week after touring cockpits, but IF that's your opinion then go back to Unuka land and think it over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted December 1, 2012 Rahima;894960 wrote: We are and anytime concerns are raised about this road we are taking you get hit with accusations of being against Xland. To me this interpretation/implementation of Federalism is nothing more than a rebranding of the clan divisions. Stop it now! Its only a clan state/entity/fiefdom when it concerns Somaliland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eng.Cadde Posted December 1, 2012 Again ,we have another fantasy topic about jubbaland. The idea federalism was suggested was the fact that somalis doesnt trust eachother and we should be separate regionally on the basis of tribe,if that is the premise and we know it is the truth since Puntland,somaliland ,galmudug are all based on clannish agenda.Then how can the D-block convince the Jubba clans that are tribally affialiated with mogadishu clans to come under some immigrants and be ruled by them? mise the mistrust dispears suddenly in jubba regions? dadkaan hadda xoodxoodanaya waxaa ku jira kuwo MSB uu cararka Refugee ID siiyay hadaad is leedihiin kuwaas oo kenyati dabato ku wato ayaa meesha qaban karo adeerayow riyadiina iskaga jira. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waranle_Warrior Posted December 1, 2012 This peaceful development is good, committee is good, talks are good, discussion is good and maamul is good. On the other hand, Isbaaro is bad, anarchism is bad, chaos is bad, mo0ryanimo is bad and guryo dad leeyahay in lagu jiro is bad - dadka xamar kasoo heesaaya stop throwing stones when guriga aad kujirtiin uu qarsho kasameesan yahay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted December 1, 2012 Somalia;894976 wrote: How is that hypocritical, is Jubbaland equal to ONLF? Maybe your new idol Xasan Sheikh explained that to the Ethiopians this week after touring cockpits, but IF that's your opinion then go back to Unuka land and think it over. what is hypocritical is that you guys are using Abtigiis folks to reach your hidden agenda and once you achieve your agenda you will backstab abtigiis folks like usual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted December 1, 2012 Waranle_Warrior;895030 wrote: This peaceful development is good, committee is good, talks are good, discussion is good and maamul is good. On the other hand, Isbaaro is bad, anarchism is bad, chaos is bad, mo0ryanimo is bad and guryo dad leeyahay in lagu jiro is bad - dadka xamar kasoo heesaaya stop throwing stones when guriga aad kujirtiin uu qarsho kasameesan yahay. Why are you lot demonozing the people of xamar 24 7? there are a lot of illegal properties held in kismaayo for example why are you not talking about that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites