Che -Guevara Posted November 27, 2012 Oba..As far as Puntland is concerned, the Government is only in name, a fact accentuated by the Government's inability to exert itself beyond Xamar. What's more, the Government has no strategy or framework to engage the various regions and setup a formula to collect taxes and distribute the revenues equitably. It's really simplistic to ask why shouldn't Puntland pay taxes considering the Government made no effort to engage it and has no strategy at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted November 27, 2012 Jacpher;893206 wrote: Oba: Once the government starts changing or making a little difference in people's lives outside of its seat, it will have the moral argument to ask for support from people it doesn't do any good or harm. makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted November 27, 2012 Che -Guevara;893207 wrote: Oba..As far as Puntland is concerned, the Government is only in name, a fact accentuated by the Government's inability to exert itself beyond Xamar. What's more, the Government has no strategy or framework to engage the various regions and setup a formula to collect taxes and distribute the revenues equitably. It's really simplistic to ask why shouldn't Puntland pay taxes considering the Government made no effort to engage it and has no strategy at all. +1. I support that the government should make up a strategy to engage those regions a bit more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted November 27, 2012 The reason is the machinery of the state is not in place yet. There are no state per se and the one in the works is missing the shaft, bearings and the fuel. Once the government gets its groove on then you will see some of the ducks getting in a row. You may recall when Inna Yussuf was the resident of Villa Somalia, he used to get a percentage of Bossasso port revenue. His predecessor Sherrif didn't had the luxury to count on that loyalty and support. Reason being he hailed from opposing clan. The Somali civil war has not been conclusively settled yet you see. Federal Government will be in a position to collect tax revenue when the laws that govern the relationship of the center-prephery are defined, agency that are charged to cary out tax collection is put in place and the roles of district, counties, and towns in both provincial and federal level are clarified. Awoowe we are on the way and insha Allah we'll get there. Just be realistic and expect couple of pumpss on the road. Remember we are in for a great political experimentation the likes of which Somalis have never seen before. It will certainly be trail and error, fumble, pick yourself up and dust off and get back to the saddle kind of thing. All these terms thrown around mean something -- regional autonomy, central state, Republic, union, federalism, etc. Each of these roads will lead you to Benadir but may take different road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted November 27, 2012 oba hiloowlow;893209 wrote: +1. I support that the government should make up a strategy to engage those regions a bit more. And mind you the reason Puntland wants the Constitution adopted and implemented is to legally define and setup the framework that will address the issue of taxation. Without such framework, Puntland wouldn't simply get lump sum of money from its treasury and hand over to the Government without any qualification or terms of reference. You need a system in place. The best the Government could do now is to setup a system in Benadir and if successful, use it benchmark. In the meantime, the Government should start talking to regional administrations and come to political understanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted November 27, 2012 Che -Guevara;893214 wrote: And mind you the reason Puntland wants the Constitution adopted and implemented is to legally define and setup the framework that will address the issue of taxation. Without such framework, Puntland wouldn't simply get lump sum of money from its treasury and hand over to the Government without any qualification or terms of reference. You need a system in place. The best the Government could do now is to setup a system in Benadir and if successful, use it benchmark. In the meantime, the Government should start talking to regional administrations and come to political understanding. Well said thanks for clearing up this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted November 27, 2012 Baashi;893211 wrote: The reason is the machinery of the state is not in place yet. There are no state per se and the one in the works is missing the shaft, bearings and the fuel. Once the government gets its groove on then you will see some of the ducks getting in a row. You may recall when Inna Yussuf was the resident of Villa Somalia, he used to get a percentage of Bossasso port revenue. His predecessor Sherrif didn't had the luxury to count on that loyalty and support. Reason being he hailed from opposing clan. The Somali civil war has not been conclusively settled yet you see. Federal Government will be in a position to collect tax revenue when the laws that govern the relationship of the center-prephery are defined, agency that are charged to cary out tax collection is put in place and the roles of district, counties, and towns in both provincial and federal level are clarified. Awoowe we are on the way and insha Allah we'll get there. Just be realistic and expect couple of pumpss on the road. Remember we are in for a great political experimentation the likes of which Somalis have never seen before. It will certainly be trail and error, fumble, pick yourself up and dust off and get back to the saddle kind of thing. All these terms thrown around mean something -- regional autonomy, central state, Republic, union, federalism, etc. Each of these roads will lead you to Benadir but may take different road. Rageedi well said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites