oba hiloowlow Posted November 23, 2012 " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Ps. What is wrong with Xaliimo Soofe, she should be quited about Somali politics due to her history its a shame for jubbaland seriously when people like her are speaking for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOIC Posted November 23, 2012 Qabiil difaac..haha...I thought this Jubaland stuff has ended already and the president reached consensus with Abtigis people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted November 23, 2012 Oba given that your kind killed many of her family members, I think you ought to keep quiet about who should retire from what. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted November 23, 2012 Somalia stop the nonsense right there nobody was spared in the civil war no matter what clan ,secondly, i personally wouldn't like seeing my kinsmen who took part of the civil war speaking for my state, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eng.Cadde Posted November 23, 2012 Haddii aan been intaan iska dhacdhacsiiyo oo meel lawada dego aan iraahdo anaa iska leh kadibna aan ciidamo aruursado miyeey ii shaqeyn logically? No,This jubbaland stuff wont materialize until all stakeholders including reer baydhabo,reer mogadishu agree and have an equal say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eng.Cadde Posted November 23, 2012 Somalia;892249 wrote: Oba given that your kind killed many of her family members, I think you ought to keep quiet about who should retire from what. What about the thousands your dead uncle A.Y and his ethiopian masters killed and maimed in xamar? their property destroyed and forced to become refugees? should your people compensate for to the families of these victims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eng.Cadde Posted November 23, 2012 sorry i dont discuss internal somali affairs with kenyans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted November 23, 2012 Eng.Cadde;892276 wrote: What about the thousands your dead uncle A.Y and his ethiopian masters killed and maimed in xamar? their property destroyed and forced to become refugees? should your people compensate for to the families of these victims. I don't know about that, I know about victims that died during an insurgency by Sheikh Shariif PS. Are we talking about same AY you gave the biggest state funeral for 50 years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted November 23, 2012 Eng.Cadde;892282 wrote: sorry i dont discuss internal somali affairs with kenyans. ouch, war Apo ninkii Eng. waa ku sabbaxadeeyey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eng.Cadde Posted November 23, 2012 Somalia Your hypocrisy is being exposed here,Here you come trying to advocate justice while you deny the existance of a systemic clan warfare your uncle A/yusuf waged on Reer Mogadishu to ethnically cleanse them from their degaan,destroy their property and make them refugees.It is all out there,From the Survivor accounts To UN human rights watch. A.y and the caydiid you loath Were To side of the same coin. war Criminals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted November 23, 2012 One major difference. Caydiid never used foreign troops to kill his own people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Homunculus Posted November 23, 2012 There is a lot of mistrust and tribalism coming from people living in the west. I thought people learned something living there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 23, 2012 ^^ The people in the west left the country in the late 80s and the early 90s so the civil war is still fresh in their minds the people in the west are highly traumatized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted November 23, 2012 Eng.Cadde;892355 wrote: Somalia Your hypocrisy is being exposed here,Here you come trying to advocate justice while you deny the existance of a systemic clan warfare your uncle A/yusuf waged on Reer Mogadishu to ethnically cleanse them from their degaan,destroy their property and make them refugees.It is all out there,From the Survivor accounts To UN human rights watch. A.y and the caydiid you loath Were To side of the same coin. war Criminals. These arguments are getting old and quite frankly a bit sad. If he was a war criminal he would have been taken to the Hague, I mean had no powers, am I not right? This ethnic cleaning crap you keep spewing is nothing but hogwash, if you wanted to try AY then you would apply the same standards to your xafidullah Sheikh Shariif who was with AMISOM, which bombed its way through Mogadishu against Al-Shabaab, yet no one speaks of the 2000-3000 civilians that died from 2010-2012. Therefore, I find your bull nullified. Thank you. PS. "Wadani", Caydiid did welcome US troops to Somalia, but opposed them when they didn't install him. So please, spare us your sermons, it's pathetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted November 23, 2012 Here you have people in power today that is in their seats because of the hard work of others whom they criticised, yet are reaping the benefits and doing the exact same thing, yet they dare to talk about the predecessors. Yes, Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed is one of the men who made it possible for us to have what resembles a government, I know that bothers many of you, I know the existence of Puntland bothers many of you, I know prosperity for your "fellow" Somalis bother you, but people are moving on, because it's the 21st century, I hope you join us up here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites