oba hiloowlow Posted November 21, 2012 You can't hide from justice and enjoy the freedoms in a democratic nation: Local Somali Man Liable For Torture Wednesday, November 21, 2012 COLUMBUS, Ohio --A former military colonel with a Somali security force dubbed the "Gestapo of Somalia" by its critics was responsible for the torture of a human rights advocate in the 1980s, a federal judge ruled Tuesday in a decision that opens the door for a hearing on potential financial damages. Abdi Aden Magan, who lived for several years in Ohio, did not present any evidence to dispute the allegations that he directed subordinates in carrying out human rights abuses under the regime of former dictator Siad Barre, U.S. District Judge George Smith said in Columbus. Abukar Hassan Ahmed, a lawyer and human rights advocate now dividing his time between London and Mogadishu, Somalia's capital, alleged in a 2010 lawsuit that the three months of torture he endured make it painful for him to sit and injured his bladder to the point that he is incontinent. Ahmed says the torture occurred when Magan served as investigations chief of the National Security Service of Somalia, a force dubbed the "Black SS" or the "Gestapo of Somalia" because of techniques used to gain confessions from detainees. Magan "has not come forth with any evidence demonstrating that he took steps to prevent abuses from occurring or to punish his subordinates for engaging in human rights abuses," Smith wrote. Magan's attorney had not seen Tuesday's ruling and could not immediately comment. Magan declined to comment to The Associated Press when the lawsuit was first filed. He fought the allegations in court filings for a while, but he has since left the U.S. for Kenya and has not responded to additional court motions. Initially, Magan argued the lawsuit was filed in the wrong country and too long after the alleged abuse. He also said he was immune from prosecution as long as he was acting within his official capacity and on behalf of the government. The fact that Magan left the U.S. makes it uncertain whether Ahmed could ever receive financial damages, but the judge will have a hearing where Ahmed can testify about what happened to him, said Kathy Roberts, staff attorney at the San Francisco-based Center for Justice and Accountability, which brought the lawsuit. She said the case has never been about the money. "Today's decision is important not only because it acknowledges Col. Magan's crimes against Professor Ahmed, but it's also important because it sheds light on the role of the security services in suppressing dissent against the Barre regime." In August, a federal judge in Virginia ordered the former prime minister of Somalia, Mohamed Ali Samantar, to pay $21 million in compensatory and punitive damages to several members of the minority ***** clan, who said they suffered brutal repression - including torture and mass killings - under the Barre regime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 22, 2012 justice will be served Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted November 22, 2012 indeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted November 22, 2012 I told you guys ,,,, the Ali Samatar Case was just the beginning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted November 22, 2012 Waa koow....JB, Justice needs to begin in Hargeysa. Soomaali waa is laysay wixii dhacay in Ilaah loo daayo ayaa habboon....aan kula kaftamee who knows adba waxaad hore u ahaan jirtey? Oba, sidoo kale caddaaladdu Xamar ha gaarto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted November 22, 2012 It needs to start somewhere ,,, and it started from the TOP and in the USA. It will go down to Xamar & Hargeysa ... don't worry about that ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted November 22, 2012 JB, cayaarta naga daa plz, there must more criminals in Hargeysa, Xamar and elsewhere. Ninyahow Ilaah dartiis halloo samro amase caddaaladda halla wada goobo, bahashu partial kuma fiicna. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 22, 2012 ^^ If you, Abwaan, tortured ME I would not say "Soomaali waa is laysay wixii dhacay in Ilaah loo daayo ayaa habboon", I will go right after you, saaxib. But if you tortured Jb, I may ask him to let bygones be bygones. Wax fahan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted November 22, 2012 ... He thinks it is SL who is doing this dee ............ Waar ragii wax la yeelay baa cad goosanaya iyagaana garanaya cidii wax yeeshay ee u dhaaf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted November 22, 2012 Shaqo la'aanta baahsan iyo sadaqada gaalada lagu qayiliyo yaa keenaysa in laba daba galo dadkii qarankooda usoo shaqeeyay,dadkay cadaalada ka doonayaana malaayiin muslimiin ah ayay daafaha aduunka ku laayeen ayagoon wax sababa u hayn عقول كل قوم على قَدْرِ زمانهم Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted November 22, 2012 Here is number 3. http://weedhsan.com/index.php/somali-home/2748-23-sanno-kaddib-xasuuqii-jaziira-kornayl-canjeex-oo-dacwad-lagu-soo-oogay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OdaySomali Posted November 22, 2012 Wixii dembi galay Ilaahay s.w.t ayaa aakhirka soo qaban oo la xisaabtami so don't worry yourselves too much folks. To him we belong and to him we shall return. Aint no escaping that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted November 22, 2012 Jacaylbaro;891944 wrote: It needs to start somewhere ,,, and it started from the TOP and in the USA. It will go down to Xamar & Hargeysa ... don't worry about that ... +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted November 22, 2012 abwaanow whats up with shakiga, what did you do in the 90s? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 22, 2012 ^^ Hadaad ogaan lahayd what Abwaan did suaasha maad weydiseen:D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites